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- Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 11:52:00 CST
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- From: SLATIN@UTXVM.BITNET
- Subject: Standardizing Composition Classe
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- An addendum, Grinch: having sat in lately on a couple of meetings with people
- from Engineering and Natural Sciences, people who are quite manifestly sincere
- in their desire to see both better student writing and better writing
- instruction, it's pretty clear to me that the mechanics-emphasis that you
- describe as hoop-jumping *isn't* hoop-jumping to them: to them it *is*
- writing. (That doesn't mean it's not hoop-jumping, it just means that that's
- not why people in Bidness or Chemistry or whatever are complaining about the
- quality of student writing. They know, and we know, that all's not well in
- that quarter; their description of what's wrong is about as far off as my
- description of a problem in comprehending chemistry would be, but that doesn't
- make it insincere or merely reflexively authoritarian; we need the kind of
- conversation with those colleagues that Bill Wresch described in today's
- posting).
-
- And I still haven't heard an argument, or at least not a persuasive one, for
- elminating the requirement, though I have heard lots of arguments for major
- overhauls both of the course and of the general context in which the course
- exists.
-
- I've recently put forward a proposal to turn the entire campus into what I'm
- grandly calling a Writing-Intensive On-Line Learning Environment: I want to do
- something on the order of what Karen Schwalm's been doing at Maricopa together
- with what we've been doing with Daedalus. I'd like to see every course
- offered at UT Austin with an associated electronic conference, as well as lots
- of other conferences about everything from Bill Clinton to the local Humane
- Society, course evaluations, campus politics, whatever. Maybe, just maybe, in
- an environment where everyone's writing all the time-- informally, for the
- "mere" purpose of getting something said-- the quality of formal writing will
- go up. Whatever "quality" is in this context.
-
- But we'll have to do some work to break the hold that the 7th-grade unit on
- grammar has on people's conceptions of "English class."
-
- John Slatin
- UT Austin
-