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- Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
- Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 08:52:12 EST
- From: <FORSDYKE@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
- Message-ID: <93002.085212FORSDYKE@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
- Newsgroups: bionet.journals.note
- Subject: Re: In defense of PNAS
- References: <92365.163145FORSDYKE@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
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- In article Lazzaro (1992) Bnt.jrnl.note 1231, 2011 John Lazarro says: n
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- Quote Forsdyke:
- >> The idea of privileged
- >>access to publication in a prestigious journal based on membership of some
- >>hierarchy seems to conflict with the proposed first article. PNAS is a -
- >collec
- >>tive platform for the scientific viewpoints of some senior scientists, but
- >not
- >>others. Sounds very un-American!
- >> Sincerely, Don Forsdyke (Discussion Leader)
- Lazzaro replies:
- >Then you must really hate edited books. Imagine, a publisher lets a
- >distinguished person (just one! not every distinguished person is the
- >entire field!) pick a group of authors based on the person's own
- >prejudicial choice of the best science in a field (imagine that!
- >making decisions based on personal taste!).
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- Forsdyke's response: Here the publisher and the distinguished person he choses
- make their choices from the entire field of distinguished
- scientists, not the particular group of distinguished
- scientists who happen to be members of a particular club.
-
- Lazzaro continues: Scientific publications are all
- >about documentation, communication, and inspiration -- documents exist
- >to serve the readers, not the authors.
-
- Forsdyke replies: The readers are best served by unbiased access as possible to
- the best authors in the field, who should NOT be selected on
- the basis of race, religion, sex, creed, colour or membership
- of a particular club.
-
- >I am arguing for diversity -- science is much better served by a
- >plurality of "publication rules" than a single standard. Both
- >"strong-editor" and "weak-editor" publications should be allowed to
- >flourish, and PNAS is a specific example of a distributed
- >"strong-editor" format.
-
- Forsdyke replies: Being a "strong editor" means that you argue for diversity.
- You do not grant preferential authorship to members of a particular club, which
- has accepted as members certain distinguished scientists, but not others.
-
- Lazzaro continues: I resent making certain styles of
- >publications "illegal" -- censorship of form is just as pernicious as
- >censorship of content.
-
- Forsdyke replies: Censorship means deciding on the form and/or content of
- some form of publication, based NOT on the merits of the publication per se,
- but on the perception of what is "good" for the reader. Basing publication on
- what club the authors happen to belong to would seem to me a form of censorship
- Yours sincerely,
- Don Forsdyke. Discussion Leader.
-