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- Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 16:31:45 EST
- From: <FORSDYKE@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
- Message-ID: <92365.163145FORSDYKE@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
- Newsgroups: bionet.journals.note
- Subject: Author's Rights and Proc.Nat.Acad.Sci.USA
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- Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
- Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 15:00:41 EST
- From: <FORSDYKE@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
- Message-ID: <92363.150041FORSDYKE@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
- Newsgroups: bionet.journals.note
- Subject: Re: Author's Rights
- References: <92356.110515FORSDYKE@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
- <Dec.21.15.21.10.1992.3147@net.bio.net> <Dec.22.08.31.02.1992.708@net.bio.net>
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- Regarding John Lazzaro's defence of the Proceedings of the National Academy of
- Sciences (ref.1):
- This follows from the "Charter of Authors' Rights." proposed article 1.
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- "1.Judgements concerning the acceptance, reviewing and publication of a
- paper should be concerned with the characteristics of the paper itself
- and not with the race, sex, creed or colour of the author."(Ref.2)
-
- David Kristofferson (ref.3) expanded on this, implying that the character-
- istics of the author might include his/her status in the heirarchy.
-
- If this were so, I then pointed out that the authorship discrimination
- practiced by the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences would aptly
- reflect the principle David was espousing.
- "Thus, publication in PNAS is largely a closed shop and
- does not comply with the above principle 1 of a proposed charter of authors'
- rights. The remedy would be simply for the academy to require that members
- NOT submit papers from their own laboratories, or on behalf of those with whom
- they have a personal relationship which might lead to bias". (ref.4)
-
- John Lazzaro then wrote arguing that PNAS is a special case (ref.1):
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- "I disagree. PNAS has served well through the years as a platform for
- timely and often controversial science, largely due to its publication
- rules. If someone is deserving of membership in the National Academy,
- they certainly can be trusted with editorial control over 24 pages a
- year in a respected journal. I view it as a collective platform for
- the scientific viewpoints of senior science, not as a traditional
- journal".
-
- In response to this I would point out that there are many very distinguished
- people in US science who are NOT members of the Academy. How is it that some
- distinguished scientists are in the club, but not others? If membership of the
- US national academy is anything like membership of the Canadian Royal Society,
- then it seems likely that politics plays some role. The idea of privileged
- access to publication in a prestigious journal based on membership of some
- heirarchy seems to conflict with the proposed first article. PNAS is a collec-
- tive platform for the scientific viewpoints of some senior scientists, but not
- others. Sounds very un-American!
- Sincerely, Don Forsdyke (Discussion Leader)
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- (1) Lazzaro, J. (1992) Bnt.jrnl.note 1228, 2324
- (2) Forsdyke, D.R. (1992) Bnt.jrnl.note 1221, 1105
- (3) Kristofferson, D. (1992) Bnt.jrnl.note 1222, 1631
- (4) Forsdyke, D.R. (1992) Bnt.jrnl.note 1228, 1500
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- Sincerely,
- Don Forsdyke
- Discussion Leader
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- (1) Forsdyke, D. R. (1992) Bionet.Journals.Note 1221, 1105
- (2) Christoffersen, D. (1992) Bionet.Journals.Note 1222, 1631
- (3) Baxter, A. (1992) Bionet.Journals.Note 1224, 750/
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