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- Subject: Re: 'Professor' in Canada - what does it mean?
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- Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 09:41:36 GMT
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- (Graham Toal) writes:
- >(Seth "the Lesser") writes:
- >:(Graham Toal) writes:
-
- >:>Could anyone who understands what a Brit means by 'Professor' and who
- >:>knows why we sometimes have misunderstandings about visiting US academics,
- >:>please tell me what 'professor' means in Canada?
-
- >:Yes, and could someone please tell those of us who don't understand this
- >:difference (who, in fact, weren't aware of it) just what it is? What *is* a
- >:British "professor"?
-
- >I think the equivalent in America is a personal chair.
-
- Or endowed chair. But the correspondence is not entirely accurate because
- most universities do not have endowed chairs (or few of them) and so
- it is nothing to aspire to; professor is as high as it gets.
-
- >Professor over here is the highest academic accolade - not just your
- >run of the mill PhD.
-
- Same here. Informally, it also includes some lower academic accolades,
- but certainly not your run of the mill PhD.
-
- >Professors are sometimes also Head of Department,
- >though it isn't a one-to-one correspondence. A Professor here will
- >certainly be one of the leading people in any field, and has a high
- >chance of being someone with an international reputation.
-
- Do you mean in _their_ field? If so, this is sufficiently vague as to
- apply to most newly hired tenure-stream assistant professors in PhD
- granting universities. Competition is stiff these days.
-
- >Stephen
- >Hawking is the sort of person we think of when we talk about a Professor.
-
- There must be hundreds (thousands?) of professors in England. Are you
- suggesting they are all in the same league as Hawking? (The ones I
- know of aren't.) Few professors, even in Europe, are known outside
- their field; Hawking is known universally in cosmology and throughout
- the public. Hardly representative.
-
- >Hence why it grates so badly when some visiting American professor
- >insists on using his title over here when we would title such a
- >person a 'lecturer'.
-
- Is there really no rank between lecturer and professor?
-
- >It's forgivable once or twice if done through
- >ignorance, but the reason I originally asked this question was because
- >some Canadian twit insisted on putting Professor of English in his
- >signature after it had been explained to him. In the particular
- >group where it happened, you'd have to be someone like Noam Chomsky
- >to do that and get away with it...
-
- It seems no sillier to use a pretentious title than to be so bothered
- by it.
-
- Werner
-
-