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- From: lewchuk@cs.UAlberta.CA (Michael Lewchuk)
- Subject: Bombadil etc.
- Message-ID: <1992Dec31.074603.12184@cs.UAlberta.CA>
- Keywords: Tom Bombadil
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- Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 07:46:03 GMT
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- First of all, I'd like to ask why Galadriel was banned from Valinor and why
- her refusal of the Ring was her redemption.
-
- Next, about Bombadil: a few comments:
-
- 1. Bombadil's power seemed to be far greater than that of any mortal or
- Istari. It was debated whether Bombadil could resist even Sauron,
- his combined army, and the One Ring. Gandalf was sure that he, even
- as the White could not have faced Sauron wielding the One, but Bombadil
- might have been able to (although Gandalf and Elrond doubted it).
-
- 2. Bombadil's power was internal: he was not using a Ring of Power to
- do or amplify the stuff he did. Unlike Gandalf and Elrond, who used
- the Rings to amplify their personal wisdom and power, Tom didn't have
- a Ring to fall back on, but did really powerful stuff anyways (such as
- signing Old Man Willow to sleep and banishing the undead).
-
- 3. Bombadil had NO FEAR. Gandalf, Elrond, even Sauron were very afraid.
- Goldberry herself showed no fear.
-
- Personally I'd think that Bombadil was an Arda-Maia, if such a thing
- existed -- an elemental spirit (earth in his case, water for Goldberry)
- with allegiance not to the Valar but to Arda and the Vision of Illuvitar
- (and thus to Illuvitar). In some sense, I'd say he was either an Exile
- (similar connotation to the term when applied to the Elves) or a Maiar
- who went not just into Ea per se, but directly into Arda, for the sake of
- Arda, not of Ea. Perhaps Illuvitar got the notion that Arda needed a little
- monitoring here and there to mature, and thus placed a "gardener" or
- "caretaker" there along with the various Valar and Maiar? Or maybe the
- Valar forgot to use birth control a few times...
-
- The arguments for him being a Valar are few but cannot be ignored:
- 1. His power was entirely internal and at least the equal of even the
- greatest Maiar (Olorin (Gandalf) and Sauron).
- 2. He had no fear and basically "ruled" an entire realm based on, well,
- wisdom, fearlessness, and love. Unlike Gandalf, Bombadil hemmed himself
- into "his corner of the world" but could presumably challenge anything
- there -- even Sauron. His power was as great as Galadriel's, but she
- was using the Elven Ring to maintain that power, while Bombadil was only
- using his personal power. His curing of the hobbits' death trance in
- the Barrows and the casting out of the undead showed that he had real
- power even in places and situations deemed to be evil. Not even Elrond
- seemed to have that amount of sheer personal power and Gandalf didn't
- seem to have enough either to simply tell Sauron's minions to get lost.
- 3. Unlike the Maiar, who used "flashy magic" -- the Balrog's fire and
- spells, and Gandalf's spells, Bombadil only used will-force. What
- Bombadil sang basically happened. He just commanded the barrow-wight
- to leave and it left, no questions asked. He probably could've done the
- same to the Balrog. I don't know whether he simply banished the undead
- to Mordor or to the Void, but he had one heckuva knowledge of Ea --
- his reference to "where gates stand forever shut 'til the world is mended"
- could mean either to Mordor (where the opening of the Gates indicates
- that the War of the Ring comes to its conclusion) or the Void, where
- creatures are banished until the world is reformed (the End?).
-
- This presents an interesting hypothesis:
- Could Bombadil, who sings reality, be Illuvitar "gone native"? That is,
- Illuvitar himself either went to Arda or created a persona by which he could
- in part exist as an Arda native and touch things up a bit? Bombadil seems
- to have the same traits -- "singing" to produce "reality", and leaving all
- the work of the Great Wars to the Maiar and Valar while he sits back and
- continues with the Vision, only interfering as required. Thus, instead of
- being a Maia of a Valar, or a Valar of a certain power, he seemed to be a
- Spirit of Illuvitar directly. Either Maiar or Valar is possible. Personally
- I think even a Maia of Illuvitar would have great power: having your "boss"
- be the creator of the Secret Fire rather than just its servant probably means
- you get taught real neat tricks on how to solve problems.
-
- Michael Lewchuk
- lewchuk@cs.UAlberta.CA
-