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- From: tas@pegasus.com (Len Howard)
- Subject: Re: THE MIND OF THE BIBLE BELIEVER
- Message-ID: <1992Dec30.084233.5452@pegasus.com>
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- Summary: God was with you there.....
- Sender: Len Howard
- Organization: Pegasus, Honolulu
- References: <1992Dec28.122831.21650@walter.cray.com> <1992Dec29.163307.21853@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> <1992Dec29.182027.25088@engr.LaTech.edu>
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- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 08:42:33 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec29.182027.25088@engr.LaTech.edu> mchenry@latech.edu (Michael Q. McHenry) writes:
- >(You are fortunate that I am not in the mood to slip on the
- >asbestos keyboard cover...)
- >
- >Hey, this may be fine for you, but please don't shovel this crap out to
- >me. I've read the bible and it _does not_ work for me. I am a bible
- >disbeliever and I would hazzard to say that many fellow atheists also
- >see no truth in the biblical tales. Hey, if you can stand living in
- >a shallow world where you cannot take credit or responsibility for
- >great or tradgic efents, that's great. Really. But realize that not
- >all living beings in this world see things your way and that, in this
- >group, your scriptures and explanatory words do not fall on blind
- >eyes, but on eyes which can see through them.
- >
- >
- >I do not accept your explanation of pain and suffering. I have spent
- >countless hours in emergency departments and fire depts and have seen
- >my share of death and mutilation and tradgedy, but I choose to
- >rationalize it in different ways. I'll admit that I've become numb
- >to most of it, but 2 years ago when a mother brought her 7 y/o
- >daughter into the ED, choking on a piece of jewelery, no pulse, no
- >respirations, we worked on her for over an hour, then finally let
- >her go. I could not tell what was sweat and what were tears
- >dripping onto my scrubs, but the bottom line is that I did NOT
- >blame your god, or any god, or anything that I could not see. We were
- >presented with a situation, we did everything that we could, and a
- >little girl died. I accept death as a part of life, and have
- >accepted my own mortality, and do not fear death. BUT I do not
- >accept the roles of fictional characters as a disclaimer for what
- >you believe.
- >
- >--
- >Quinn McHenry "If you would be a real seeker after truth, it
- >mchenry@engr.latech.edu is necessary that at least once in your life
- >Biomedical Engineering you doubt, as far as possible, all things."
- >Louisiana Tech University - Rene Descartes
-
- Quinn, I thhat God was you there in that Emergency Room 2 years ago.
- He was not the one that made thele girl choke on the jewelery, e was
- with her en it happeneand he was with you when you tried to save her
- life. He was also with the parents when they d for their daughter.
- God does not cause the hurs, hurricanes happen. God is with us as we
- suffer, anhe is withs we enjoy. Life happens, and it is not all
- sweetness and life. But that does not discount the presence of God in
- all of this. He does not cause it and rarely preven But he shares
- our suffering as he shared our humanity and died for us about 2000
- years ago.
-
- Shalom, Quinn ( excuse the line noise)
-
- Len Howard
-
- Shalom, Quinn, Len Howard OSL
-