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- From: kv07@IASTATE.EDU (Warren Vonroeschlaub)
- Subject: Re: What is conciousness?
- Message-ID: <1992Nov20.174351@IASTATE.EDU>
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- Reply-To: kv07@IASTATE.EDU (Warren Vonroeschlaub)
- Organization: Ministry of Silly Walks
- References: <1992Nov14.001225.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu> <7NTHuB3w165w@kalki33>
- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 23:43:51 GMT
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- In article <7NTHuB3w165w@kalki33>, kalki33!system@lakes.trenton.sc.us writes:
- >kmagnacca@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
- >>> Ok. Then what is the (talk.)origin of consciousness? Of course, first we
- >>> will need to decide what consciousness is.
- >>
- >> Sorry, this is still a metaphysical question. This is a forum for
- >>the discussion of the origins of life, not of consciousness, and as
- >>you stated, life is not consciousness.
- >
- >Ok. What is the (talk.)origin of life? Of course, first we will need to
- >decide what life is. So, tell us your definition of life and then
- >explain how this definition accounts for consciousness. Any definition
- >of life must account for all the properties of life, and one of those
- >properties is consciousness, is it not?
-
- You have yet to demonstrate that other than by bold assertion.
-
- I have a funny feeling you are going to define life as "that which has
- consciousness" then base your argument on how even if molecules did combine into
- a self-reproducing cell it wouldn't be lie because it wasn't conscious.
-
- You can prove me wrong by:
-
- a) Defining life without using the concept of consciousness in your
- definition.
-
- or
-
- b) Defining consciousness without using the concept of life in your
- definition.
-
- Of course, you can do both at the same time too.
-
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