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- From: kalki33!system@lakes.trenton.sc.us
- Newsgroups: talk.origins
- Subject: Re: Probability of Evolution
- Message-ID: <PT6HuB1w165w@kalki33>
- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 15:09:00 EST
- References: <1992Nov16.202659.13500@athena.mit.edu>
- Reply-To: kalki33!system@lakes.trenton.sc.us
- Organization: Kalki's Infoline BBS, Aiken, SC, USA
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- lking@athena.mit.edu (Loren King) writes:
-
- > |> Yes. So you agree with us that it takes an intelligent being to create
- > |> the conditions under which a particular configuration of matter
- > |> --distinct from other configurations-- can arise. This must be true,
- > |> since you shuffled the deck, and we are supposing that you are an
- > |> intelligent being.
- >
- >
- > Don't be silly! You could replace him with a mechanical shuffler and the
- > probabilities would be the same.
-
- Someone built the mechanical shuffler.
-
- > |> Again, then, you agree with us that life comes from life, since, as you
- > |> say, it was your parents who produced you.
- >
- >
- > Fine, but are you suggesting that life can come from some "higher" form of li
- > instead of life on its own ontological level? If you're saying that "life co
- > from life" well, fine, but it seems to me you're not. Rather you're saying
- > "terrestrial life comes from Divine life", which in my mind is just as fuzzy,
- > logically more difficult to defend than saying it arose out of biochemical
- > processes. In my mind, the latter is an easier proposition to falsify or
- > confirm to many people than your divine hypothesis, which in fact cannot be
- > confirmed or falsified.
-
- You speak of "life on its own ontological level", but what is that
- level? If you say it is the level of molecular biology, then we say no,
- molecular biology cannot explain all the features of life, especially
- consciousness.
-
- What, specifically, is your definition of, or what do you understand to
- be the meaning of the term "living being"?
-
- > |> Sincerely,
- > |> Kalki "Show me a program without a programmer" Dasa
- >
- > Loren "show me a logical religious argument without a contentious and
- > untestable, unverifiable fundamental divine postulate" King
-
- If you want verifiction of God's existence, you should investigate the
- various methods of realization recommended by the devotees, the most
- important of which is stated in the taglines to every one of our posts.
-
- Sincerely,
- Kalki "No pain, no gain" Dasa
-
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