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- From: onar@hsr.no (Onar Aam)
- Subject: Ted Holden vs. Natural Selection
- Message-ID: <1992Nov19.132430.8819@hsr.no>
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- Organization: Rogaland University Centre
- References: <105@fedfil.UUCP> <1992Nov10.231927.3971@athena.cs.uga.edu> <101988@bu.edu> <111@fedfil.UUCP>
- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 13:24:30 GMT
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- >Natural selection is what is known (outside
- >the realm of evolution studies) as a tautology: the fittest survive, and
- >those who survive do so because they are most "fit" (the survivers are the
- >fit).
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- I think that you have shown quite clearly that no written word is ever going to
- affect you. I have not been long enough on this newsgroup to observe all the
- eager fighting between you and some dedicated biologists, but from their
- frustration one can easily conclude that you have no trust in science. For you (
- quite ironically) seeing is believing. As long as you cannot observe evolution in
- action (via natural selection) you choose to discard the whole thing. Well, then
- I challenge you (and Kalki, and Lionel, etc.): have you ever seen any computer
- simulation of evolution? If not then do that right away. Go ahead, look at
- "Tierra" (my personal favourite). If you after this *still* find natural
- selection to be improbable, impossible or immutable, *then* no discussion is
- needed.
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- Onar.
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