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- From: kalki33!system@lakes.trenton.sc.us
- Newsgroups: talk.origins
- Subject: Re: Probability of Evolution
- Message-ID: <Zcu9TB5w165w@kalki33>
- Date: Sat, 14 Nov 92 14:22:58 EST
- References: <1992Nov13.081348.8611@smds.com>
- Reply-To: kalki33!system@lakes.trenton.sc.us
- Organization: Kalki's Infoline BBS, Aiken, SC, USA
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- rh@smds.com (Richard Harter) writes:
-
- > In article <e0N3TB8w165w@kalki33> kalki33!system@lakes.trenton.sc.us writes:
- >
- > >If there isn't a model for abiogenesis "yet", then why do supposedly
- > >reputable scientists make the premature claim that life arose from
- > >non-life? Unless a model can be shown to be correct, then it is not
- > >scientific to claim that the phenomenon occurred, is it?
- >
- > To answer your question, it may or may not be "scientific" to claim that
- > a pehnomenon has occurred in the absence of a model; it all depends on
- > what the the data is. A model is an explanation of how things happen;
- > data is what happened. Science deals in both models and data.
-
- Yes, and science has no data whatsoever that living organisms have ever
- arisen from inanimate matter solely by the action of the known physical
- laws. This has never been observed by anyone, except of course the
- ancients who observed maggots in meat and concluded that therefore
- maggots were produced by meat.
-
- > The data supporting the thesis of abiogenesis is good but not presumptive;
- > there are proposed theories of how this event might have come about; at
- > this point there is insufficient information to determine if any of these
- > theories are correct.
-
- Yes, you are right. So no scientist who is worthy of the title would
- ever claim that abiogenesis occurred, or even that there is sufficient
- reason to suppose that it did, right?
-
- > >No one has ever seen a living organism arise from an assemblage of
- > >lifeless matter, have they?
- >
- > Yes.
-
- Who?
-
- Sincerely,
- Kalki Dasa
-
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