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- From: kalki33!system@lakes.trenton.sc.us
- Newsgroups: talk.origins
- Subject: Re: What is consciousness?
- Message-ID: <aas9TB1w165w@kalki33>
- Date: Sat, 14 Nov 92 13:38:09 EST
- References: <1992Nov13.043009.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu>
- Reply-To: kalki33!system@lakes.trenton.sc.us
- Organization: Kalki's Infoline BBS, Aiken, SC, USA
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- kmagnacca@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
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- > In article <0mo3TB9w165w@kalki33>, kalki33!system@lakes.trenton.sc.us writes:
- > > onar@hsr.no (Onar Aam) writes:
- > >
- > >> >> I see. Are trees conscious? Is a virus conscious?
- > >> >
- > >> >Yes, trees and viruses are living beings, are they not?
- > >>
- > >> Viruses alive????? Are you sure you aren't too much into New Age, Gaja and
- > >> stuff?
- > >
- > > Yes, i'm sure.
- >
- > What characteristic of viruses makes them alive? I'm talking
- > about an empirical characteristic like metabolism, not something
- > vague like consciousness.
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- Since we do not consider life to be a function of matter or material
- interaction (the converse is true), we do not consider this question
- answerable. Life is revealed by the presence of consciousness, and if
- one is unable to ascertain that there is consciousness present, then one
- cannot say whether there is life. If by "characteristic of viruses" you
- mean the physical properties or behavior of the material body of the
- virus, then our answer is that no characteristic of viruses "makes" them
- alive. Rather, it is the fact that they are alive that makes them able
- to manifest these characteristics.
-
- The virus body is perhaps the simplest of all carbon-based forms, but
- carbon based forms are not the only forms in which life is found.
-
- Sincerely,
- Kalki Dasa
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