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- From: kalki33!system@lakes.trenton.sc.us
- Newsgroups: talk.origins
- Subject: Re: Probability of Evolution
- Message-ID: <1Ru9TB6w165w@kalki33>
- Date: Sat, 14 Nov 92 14:31:59 EST
- References: <1992Nov13.095627.6798@abo.fi>
- Reply-To: kalki33!system@lakes.trenton.sc.us
- Organization: Kalki's Infoline BBS, Aiken, SC, USA
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- MANDTBACKA@finabo.abo.fi (Mats Andtbacka Ktf92) writes:
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- > In <Dso3TB12w165w@kalki33> kalki33!system@lakes.trenton.sc.us writes:
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- > >> Please be real. To model even the simplest organic reactions mathematic
- > >> is intractable. (I assume p107 of the book you referred to earlier)
- > >
- > > Well then the proposal of molecular evolution that life arose from
- > > reactions between simple organic molecules cannot be demonstrated, can
- > > it?
- >
- > That's not quite what he said... It might be quite some task to
- > *model it mathematically*, I think you'll agree.
-
- He said "intractable".
-
- > > And if it cannot be demonstrated, then all claims that it actually
- > > occurred are premature, aren't they? And if one believes it occurred,
- > > then one does so on faith alone, right?
- >
- > This is possible - that everything we do, we do on some form of
- > faith or other, I mean. If so, what is faith? I still think molecular
- > evolution is *much more probable* than anything else put forth, though.
-
- It is the attempt to quantify this "probable" that leads to our
- conclusion.
-
- > >>>> In actual fact, the probability of evolution of higher life forms is
- > >>>> bounded below by 0 and bounded above by 1. Any more definite statement
- > >>>> is an exercise in intellectual fraud.
- >
- > That depends on how you calculate the probability of molecular
- > evolution. This is YOUR assumption, and I guess it's as good as mine -
- > now, exactly why should I switch assumption, if yours is no better?
-
- That statement about bounds was not ours, by the way.
-
- > Rest of your posting - a *lot* - deleted, as it went a bit over my
- > head, I'm afraid. This point I'd wish to make: Living blobs of organic
- > (and some inorganic) would have a definite evolutionary advantage over
- > dead blobs of organic and inorganic matter, when in an environment more
- > or less hostile to the continued existence of such blobs. Thus, life
- > could (and probably would) evolve.
-
- There is that "probably" again!
-
- Sincerely,
- Kalki Dasa
-
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