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- From: Rick.Moen@f207.n914.z8.rbbs-net.ORG (Rick Moen)
- Newsgroups: sci.skeptic
- Subject: Re: Insults
- Message-ID: <722505755.0@wyrm.rbbs-net.ORG>
- Date: 22 Nov 92 23:21:10 GMT
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- > From: kraus@.SanDiego.NCR.COM (Dave Kraus)
- > Message-ID: <1992Nov18.171513.4431@donner.SanDiego.NCR.COM>
-
- >>I think the best solution is the only one that will absolutely,
- >>positively keep the bulk of this blithering out of newsgroups:
- >>universal insensitivity -- a truly liberating idea whose time has
- >>come.
- >
- > Are you talking about robots, or are you talking about human beings?
- > It would be nice to be able to discuss ideas without emotion, but
- > it is human nature to become personally involved with ideas one
- > believes in. This is true for insulters and insultees alike. Ideally
- > it would be great if we could detach our emotions from our beliefs,
- > but I have known few who can do so.
-
- This is a straw-man objection, in that Bronx-cheering people out of
- theatrical hypersensitivity of the attention-getting variety in no
- way presupposes an absence of emotion. Indeed, annoyance and mild
- disgust are obviously among the applicable emotions, here.
-
- Further, your statement begs the question of whether people's becoming
- emotionally involved with their ideas must inevitably lead them to
- making a big, attention-getting show of being "insulted" in public.
- I would like to believe that, for everyone other than the more
- unbalanced adolescents, this is not the case.
-
- >>As long as proclaiming one's self "insulted" is an effective way to
- >>get attention, people who see themselves as power-deprived will
- >>continue to seek the eradication of "insults" as an alternative to
- >>substantive improvement of their condition. Hypersensitive
- >>noisemaking, however emotionally satisfying to some, is a poor
- >>substitute for progress.
-
- > I would agree with you, except to add that the insult is often used
- > as a tool by the insulter to intimidate, or change the subject from
- > a discussion of ideas to a discussion of personalities.
-
- Then, it would seem to be in the interest of the "insulted" party to be
- not so easily _manipulated_, wouldn't it? Absent sufficient
- intelligence and self-control for that, maybe it would help to ignore
- him, rather than encouraging his long shtick about how "insulted" he is.
- 'Might aid such people in growing up.
-
- Cheers,
- Rick M.
- moen@blyth.com
-
- * Origin: The Skeptic's Board in San Mateo - Bay Area Skeptics (8:914/207)
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