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- From: mmm@cup.portal.com (Mark Robert Thorson)
- Newsgroups: sci.psychology
- Subject: Re: Sanity Certification
- Message-ID: <70035@cup.portal.com>
- Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 10:20:45 PST
- Organization: The Portal System (TM)
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- WRT the technical issues, I'm not suggesting a single "test", I'm suggesting
- a battery of tests based on existing technology. These technologies such
- as MMPI, Rorschach (or Holtzman), etc. are already used for screening in
- clinical psychiatry.
-
- Nor am I suggesting there is a sharp dividing line between the sane and
- insane. Sanity certification would merely identify the people who are
- as a previous poster suggested "clearly insane". This might for example
- be the lowest quintile of sanity. Everybody else would pass, and that will
- definitely include some insane people. This is inevitable with any screening
- test. Do you think the test required to get a driver's license completely
- excludes bad drivers from the road? Of course not, but does that mean that
- the driver's test should be abandoned? Again, of course not. The test
- serves a valuable function as an initial first-pass screen to deny access
- to the worst cases.
-
- Nor am I suggesting that sanity is permanent condition, like sex or race.
- I think sanity certification would need to be renewed on a periodic basis
- like a driver's license. This should help defuse the emotional impact
- of flunking the test, because it would provide hope to that individual
- they could take the test and pass 6 months later (or something). Also,
- it would provide a goal toward which the subject could work, which would
- be a useful motivating factor to get people to voluntarily enter treatment.
-
- WRT the social-cultural issues, I agree that would be a problem. Most
- of our tests were normed to U.S. white people that lived decades ago.
- A recent immigrant from a nation dominated by animist religions might believe
- that demon spirits are responsible for common everyday misfortunes, such
- as flu or spilling a pot of beans. Even U.S. white people belonging to
- certain Christian sects hold similar beliefs. Are these people insane?
- I would most definitely say no, even though their beliefs seem bizarre
- and irrational. Within their own cultural context, these are perfectly
- logical. In fact, it would be illogical for a Biblical inerrantist to
- believe that a literal devil does not exist.
-
- Rather than attempt to norm all these mini-cultures, my suggestion would
- be simply to err on the side of sanity in each case. If a person is a
- homosexual or eats insects or whatever, that should have no impact on the
- final sanity score. Satanists are a different matter, because for the most
- part Satanism is not a separate religion from Christianity. It is my
- understanding that most so-called Satanists are actually former Christians
- who have rejected their religion in the most extreme way possible. This
- might be the sort of thing which could be considered in formulating the
- sanity score.
-
- WRT the social-political issues, any attempt to manipulate the test
- politically would be just as unethical as any attempt to screw around
- with any other test, like the SAT's or the Civil Service Exam. Unlike
- most other tests, I think there would be a great many experts who would
- closely scrutinize the development and application of the battery of tests,
- and there would be many who would be quick to criticize any real or imagined
- faults in the technology. I don't think the test could be manipulated
- without a large outcry being raised, especially if the entire U.S. population
- of psychiatrists, psychologists, and psychotherapists were required to be
- recertified every year. They would be about the most sensitive population
- you could imagine.
-
- Actually, I see an enormous benefit to the professional practice of psychotherapy
- by the implementation of certification procedures. It's like when medical
- school accreditation was introduced in the U.S. Immediately, a huge number
- of incompetent medical schools were closed, resulting in a large increase
- in the value of a medical education.
-