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- From: jbaez@riesz.mit.edu (John C. Baez)
- Subject: Mass psychosis again?
- Message-ID: <1992Nov22.225954.12730@galois.mit.edu>
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- Organization: MIT Department of Mathematics, Cambridge, MA
- References: <Nov.17.18.53.42.1992.9384@ruhets.rutgers.edu> <1992Nov21.020240.14999@nuscc.nus.sg> <mcirvin.722374031@husc8>
- Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 22:59:54 GMT
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- In article <mcirvin.722374031@husc8> mcirvin@husc8.harvard.edu (Mcirvin) writes:
- >matmcinn@nuscc.nus.sg (Brett McInnes) writes:
- >
- >>bweiner@ruhets.rutgers.edu (Benjamin Weiner) writes:
- >>:
- >>: Look, Martin, it seems that you do understand this. Rest mass is not
- >>: conserved in e+ e- -> photons.
- >
- >>Err...Ben...would you like to modify this a little? Surely the rest mass
- >>has to be conserved if the 4-momentum is?
- >
- >Heh, heh. The rest mass of the whole system, yes. The rest mass of the
- >individual particles, no.
- >
- >I'm so glad to see sci.physics drop into this quagmire again... it's
- >like an old friend.
-
- Ugh. With friends like this...
-
- Mass is the square root of energy squared minus momentum squared (in
- units where c = 1). Energy, mass, momentum are all different (although
- obviously related) and all conserved. The rest mass of a system of
- particles is conserved but not necessarily the sum of the rest masses of
- its components.
-
- While in Utah basking in the snow, I went to a nice talk about physics
- education. It noted that a shocking percentage of physics grad students
- never had mastered the concept of force. For example, if you asked them
- why a small car could push a big truck, accelerating it, many of them
- circled the answer that said "because the car is pushing with more force
- on the truck than the truck is on the car." I would hate to see what
- percentage of physics PhD's understood relativistic mass! :-) (I think
- all those cited above *do* understand it, btw.)
-