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- From: steinly@topaz.ucsc.edu (Steinn Sigurdsson)
- Newsgroups: sci.environment
- Subject: Re: Topsoil as a commodity
- Message-ID: <STEINLY.92Nov22165049@topaz.ucsc.edu>
- Date: 23 Nov 92 00:50:49 GMT
- References: <JMC.92Nov21112054@SAIL.Stanford.EDU> <722404867snx@Gilsys.DIALix.oz.au>
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- In-reply-to: gil@Gilsys.DIALix.oz.au's message of 22 Nov 92 04:01:07 GMT
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- In article <722404867snx@Gilsys.DIALix.oz.au> gil@Gilsys.DIALix.oz.au (Gil Hardwick) writes:
-
- In article <JMC.92Nov21112054@SAIL.Stanford.EDU> jmc@cs.Stanford.EDU writes:
-
- > I am properly humbled. Gil Hardwick has properly thrown out all this
- > irrelevant stuff about land prices, amount of topsoil per acre and
- > trucking costs. He has properly ignored J. L. Hurst's observation about
- > deep loess in close proximity to land good only for pasture.
-
- Rightfully. Topsoil and therefore farm land is not valued against the
- costs of trucking it elsewhere, but on what crops it will produce in
- situ. Haven't we got that through to you yet?
-
- I do believe the point is that there is not intrinsic reason
- for this, namely in principle poor land may be made better
- by addition of proper topsoil, as is done persistently on
- a world wide basis. The issue is whether such activity is best
- left to geology, weather and rivers, or whether we might
- take active part...
-
- > He has gotten to the essence of a discussion appropriate to an
- > "International forum" - who is a good guy and who is a bad guy.
-
- I do confess to being slow to tune into Truth, Justice, and The
- American Way, but now that I have finally learned I can relax and
- proceed apace with the realisation that you are all satisfied that
- I know the rules.
-
- Gil, do you approach all cultures you interact with with the same
- bluster as you have the Net?
-
- > He calls me a computer programmer. Programmers laugh when they hear
- > that. I'm a professor of ... .
-
- I do not give two hoots what you are a professor of; as I have stated
- previously I have no respect for whatever it is you represent here on
- the Internet. As you choose to use your position to promote your own
- eccentric political ideology, and to promote such economic absurdity
- as you do in all seriousness, you are no more than a buffoon.
-
- Maybe it is time to add some history of the Net to Required Reading
- For Newbies (as if a definitive one could ever be agreed on...).
- A little research however, might show you Gil that Prof McCarthy is
- probably a significant part of the reason why you can post here,
- having put his authority behind a number of major free speach and
- net access issues during the early days of the net. As I recall
- Australia was one of the more persistent censors in the Good Old Days.
- Although I suspect that Prof McCarthy had no direct hand in the
- opening of Oznet, I equally suspect the principles he championed
- when the same issues were debated in the US and Canada were what
- brought you (and many others) your access.
-
- * Steinn Sigurdsson Lick Observatory *
- * steinly@lick.ucsc.edu "standard disclaimer" *
- * I know people whose idea of fun *
- * Is throwing stones in the river in the afternoon sun *
- * Oh let me be as free as them *
- * - BB 1986 *
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