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- From: tobis@meteor.wisc.edu (Michael Tobis)
- Subject: Re: Steering Clinton onto the right track
- Message-ID: <1992Nov19.201945.22219@meteor.wisc.edu>
- Organization: University of Wisconsin, Meteorology and Space Science
- References: <1992Nov18.203503.12198@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> <1992Nov18.213351.1@cubldr.colorado.edu> <1992Nov19.112926.1@cubldr.colorado.edu>
- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 20:19:45 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov19.112926.1@cubldr.colorado.edu> parson_r@cubldr.colorado.edu (Robert Parson) writes:
- >
- > Sorry, that figure is wrong. Solar cycle variation is ~2%. The
- > "quasibiennial oscillation", a 2-year cycle associated with stratospheric
- > winds, gives another 3%. When these and the much larger seasonal variations
- > are properly accounted for, one gets a net _global_ decrease of ~3%/decade
- > (in addition to the above reference, see Herman et al., J. Geophys. Res.
- > _96_, 17297, 1991, which describes the statistical analysis in full detail)
- > for the period 1978-1990. The trend is larger (~5%) for middle latitudes,
- > and smaller (a fraction of a %) in the tropics. It is still the case that
- > the excursion is significantly larger than the trend - so far (don't forget
- > the basic time lag - ozone depletion in the 80's is due to chlorine from
- > the '60's and '70s).
-
- Quite so, but actually a bit beside the point, since you are discussing
- ozone statistics for middle ond low latitudes, where a bit of care is
- required with the statistics. As far as springtime Antarctic column ozone
- goes, however, no such quibbling is needed. This was appromixately steady
- from 1956 (when measurement started) to 1970, and has dropped precipitously
- to about 50% of previous levels since then. This is not correlated with
- volcanos or sunspot cycles and is well correlated with stratospheric
- chlorine, which in turn is known to be mostly of anthropogenic origin.
-
- Rather than referring the skeptic to some obscure Air Force report I urge
- him or her to look at page 33 of the January 1988 Scientific American
- before blathering about cycles.
-
- > Incidentally, this also detracts from the credibility of Mike Vandeman's
- > assertions that ozone depletion has *already* led to skin cancer and blindness.
-
- While all else being equal (in the behavior of the population) it is likely
- that a significant skin cancer rate increase will occur, this business about
- the blind sheep seems to be an isolated incident that has found its way
- into the green canon about ozone destruction, and is probably without
- foundation.
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