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- From: altenbur@plains.NoDak.edu (Karl Altenburg)
- Subject: Re: Physiology & Psychology (Q)
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- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:50:16 GMT
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- Tom Rocklin wrote:
-
- >There is an argument that says, roughly, that knowing the details of the
- >neurophysiology and neuroanatomy of an organism (I'm particularly interested
- >in humans) will still leave you ignorant of important details
- >of the psychology of that organism.
- .
- <stuff deleted>
- .
- >much about Unix itself. Similarly, knowing the details of the brain (and
- >the rest of the relevant system(s)) will tell you some constraints on the
- >psychology of an organism, but not much more.
-
- >I'd be happy to hear comments on this argument (which I'm neither endorsing
- >nor rejecting), but more importantly, I'd appreciate pointers to published
- >versions of the argument (and related arguments). ^^^^^^^^^
-
- There have been studies of this sort using lower animals (i.e. insects)
- as models. The argument in these systems is that it might be possible,
- given an accurate enough model of the animal, its anatomy and physiology,
- along with an accurate model of its environment, one could accurately
- model the behavior of the animal. This also assumes that you can
- condition the model to have the same learned behaviors found in the
- animal, something that should be possible in the insect model (given its
- limited memory and greater dependence on instincts/reflexes) but much harder to
- do with something as complex as a human.
-
- Some published work for this argument would be:
-
- Vehicles, experiments in synthetic psychology / Valentino Braitenberg.
- Cambridge, Mass. : MIT Press, c1984.
-
- Braitenberg memoirs: vehicles for probing behavior roam a dark
- plain marked by lights. (Valentino Braitenberg; Computer
- Recreations) by A.K. Dewdney, Scientific American March 1987,
- v256, p16(5)
-
- An artificial insect. (computer-simulated insects) by Randall
- D. Beer, J. Hillel Chiel and Leon S. Sterling,
- American Scientist Sept-Oct 1991, v79, n5, p444(9),
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- Karl R Altenburg altenbur@plains.NoDak.edu
- North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105
-
- All things are artificial, for nature is the art of God. SIR THOMAS BROWNE
-