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- From: clarke@acme.ucf.edu (Thomas Clarke)
- Subject: Re: Supernova (Was Re: P/Swift-Tuttle at last!)
- Message-ID: <1992Nov19.143248.4489@cs.ucf.edu>
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- Organization: University of Central Florida
- References: <1edk30INNbd7@transfer.stratus.com>
- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 14:32:48 GMT
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- In article <1edk30INNbd7@transfer.stratus.com> tarl@sw.stratus.com (Tarl
- Neustaedter) writes:
- > In article <1992Nov14.043817.3016@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>,
- ins894r@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Aaron Wigley [Wigs]) writes:
- > > Then, all of a sudden I saw a very brief flash off centre from
- > > one of the Clouds.
- > >[,,,]
- > > Until the next day, when I read about it in the newspaper. I happened to
- > > have witnessed Supernova 1987A :-)
- >
- > From the smiley, I assumed you were making a joke, but someone else seems
- > to have taken it seriously. So I'll comment:
- >
- > If you saw a brief flash, it wasn't SN1987A. The neutrino flash was several
- > seconds long, and the visual portion would have taken hours for the
- > shockwave to arrive at the surface of the star. (Stellar atmospheres are
- > not transparent). Once the shockwave did arrive, the brightness increase
- > would be gradual, as larger and larger portions of the surface visible to
- > you showed the effects (it's a sphere, and the closest portion is light-
- > hours closer to you than the edge). After the effects hit the surface, the
- > brightness would not fall back - the gas is still hot and size is still
- > increasing due to the explosion.
-
- I think his observation, if not smilied, might be important and
- interesting. First I don't think the optically emitting sphere
- would be light hours across - the sun is only about 5 light
- seconds across and the imploding core or the SN must be much smaller.
- There would be some problem with optical opacity, but attempting some
- wild-ass-guess theorizing: could the several second-long pulse of
- neutrino's induce a pulse of optical emission from the outer envelope
- of the star? Neutrino's zap particles which then emit light via
- Bremstrahlung or Cerenkov radation etc.
-
- I wonder if anyone has ever thought real closely about what the first
- seconds of a SN explosion would look like since the probability of
- having a detector aimed in the right direction is so small?
- Aaron Wigley's personal photodetectors might have made a unique
- astronomical observation.
-
- --
- Thomas Clarke
- Institute for Simulation and Training, University of Central FL
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