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- From: solman@athena.mit.edu (Jason W Solinsky)
- Subject: Re: Proof that small classes=better education?
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- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:38:20 GMT
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- In article <1e3o30INN3m3@mozz.unh.edu>, pas@kepler.unh.edu (Paul A Sand) writes:
- |> dh: Don Hosek
- |>
- |> dh: Now, I _know_ that smaller classroom size improves the educational
- |> quality of a school (more individual attention to students, etc.)
- |> but I'd like to be able to convince the "show me, don't tell me"
- |> people. [...] If anyone can help me on this, I'd appreciate it.
- |>
- |> If there's any such evidence, I've not seen it. Numerous studies have
- |> failed to find any such link. Unfortunately, this isn't a particularly
- |> well-publicized fact, causing numerous folks like Mr. Hosek to ``know''
- |> things that simply aren't so.
-
- I can't cite it for you (but I'm posting here on the hope that somebody else
- can), but this summer the results of such a study were very well publicized.
- It concluded that there was a strong relationship between both smaller classes
- and more tests and learning. I saw it in atleast three seperate magazines and
- newspapers so I figure somebody else has to have read about it.
-
- |> Arranging for smaller class sizes is a popular (and expensive) way to
- |> allow educrats to claim they're `improving' the school system. But
- |> quite simply, there are much more effective things to do that are a lot
- |> cheaper (for example, allowing teachers to spend more time during the
- |> school day in instructional activity rather than administrative
- |> busywork and discipline).
-
- I agree with the first statement, but disagree with your conclusion. The
- problem is that when schools suddenly decrease class size, the teacher rarely
- changes his/her routine to utilize the smaller class size to his/her advantage.
- Its like spending additional money on schools. You can't just add a resource (in
- these two cases time and money). You have to make sure that it is used wisely.
- Otherwise it just gets wasted (on the janitors :-).
-