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- From: jdooley@urbana.mcd.mot.com (John Dooley)
- Subject: Re: How to pick a grad school
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- Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:16:40 GMT
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- ginsberg@t.Stanford.EDU (Matthew L. Ginsberg) writes:
-
- >Yes,
- >graduate school will teach you (hopefully) to organize your time,
- >teach, write papers and present them. But those are all things that
- >you can, if need be, learn elsewhere (albeit perhaps with some
- >difficulty). What graduate school teaches you that you can't learn
- >anywhere else is to be a scientist. And the person you learn that
- >from, more than anyone else, is your faculty advisor.
-
- > Matt Ginsberg
-
- I'd like to disagree about graduate schools teaching you how to
- _teach_. If the two graduate schools I attended as a TA are any
- example, teaching you to teach is the farthest thing from their minds.
- One of them gave first year students a 1/2 day seminar on teaching
- run by the senior grad students. You then got a textbook, a syllabus,
- two course sections and a cheery "See you in December". In the other,
- TA's rarely got to actually teach anything. Mostly we graded papers,
- and if you were lucky got to run a lab section or substitute for the
- prof on occasion. IMHO grad school is about _research_, not teaching.
-
- I would love to see a grad program in CS (pick any sub-discipline)
- that is geared toward putting it's graduates into the classroom -
- especially the undergraduate classroom. I learned to teach during my
- first full-time teaching job at a small four-year college. My
- department chair, who'd been teaching for 20 years at that point was
- my mentor, source of problems and examples, sounding board, critic,
- etc, etc.
-
- I learned a lot in grad school, but I certainly didn't learn to teach
- there.
-
- cheers,
- john
-
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