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- Path: sparky!uunet!idm.com!rjr
- From: rjr@idm.com (Ray J Rueb)
- Subject: Re: So you want to join a Bally's Health Club? Read this...
- Summary: Grow up
- Message-ID: <Bxxv1E.DxC@idm.com>
- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 01:05:37 GMT
- References: <69379@cup.portal.com>
- Organization: Information Data Management
- Lines: 134
-
- Note: My comments are meant to be adult and confrontive in nature.
- Please do not interpret my comments as FLAMES. They are not.
- Please stay adult, read on... and learn.
-
- In article <69379@cup.portal.com> Eric_J_Rainbolt@cup.portal.com writes:
- >
- >I am writing to resolve a very hectic, and sticky situation that
- >I feel partially guilty for.
- What I'm hearing you say is that you know you did something wrong.
- I agree.
-
- >Last summer, when living with my parents in Evergreen Park, Illinois, a
- >suburb of Chicago, I decided to improve my self-image and the like by
- >joinging Bally's Health Club in the neighboring town of Oak Lawn.
- I feel concerned by this statement.
- My self-image comes from how I view myself, and how I fell about myself.
- I feel that looking outside myself for my self-image is destructive.
-
- >I was led in by a manager named Jim.
- You make it sound as though you had given up all of your power to him.
- Do you often turn over control of your life to other people?
-
- >He told me all the benifits of
- >membership, and made me feel as much at home in the Center as possible.
- >He even told me that I can join at the "special time" and receive the
- >Premier-Plus membership for a low introductory fee of $50.00 cash up
- >front. He took me into his office, and pulled a contract out of his desk.
- >He spent most of his time trying to gain my trust by asking what I was
- >interested in, and tried to relate these things to the Center's activities.
- >In short, he was doing his job effectively.
- I'm glad that you recognize that he was being a good salesman.
- That's his job, and if he couldn't do it effectively,
- he wouldn't be doing it for long.
-
- >He used his ball point pen
- >to point out important facts of the contract, and he circled the ones we went
- >over. Most of the circles highlighted the benefits of membership.
- This is unimportant. It doesn't matter what you discussed or didn't discuss.
-
- >I told him exactly what my situation was. I said I was only going to be in
- >town for the next two months, and I didn't want to be liable for a full
- >year's membership. ( $600.00 odd dollars ).
- This is where I feel you really went wrong.
- You were trying to make him responsible for your life;
- ie: please take care of me...
- This does not sound like a responsible adult who is accountable
- for their actions.
-
- >He said that was "no problem",
- >because if I showed proof that I moved more than 30 miles from the
- >Center, I wouldn't be held liable for any additional payments. Now
- >I realize that he just told me a lie. Or he was displaying his lack of
- >knowledge of the contract.
- You're playing the victim role here.
- You feel betrayed because he didn't take care of you.
- Poor you.
- Forget it... no sympathy from me.
- You chose to give up control of your life.
-
- >The trouble all started because I didn't read all the fine print.
- No, the trouble all started because you don't feel accountable for your actions.
- When I give up control of my life,
- I am doing it BECAUSE I don't want to be accountable for my actions.
- When I feel accountable for my actions, I take responsibility for myself.
- This is what I call being an adult.
-
- >>>>>>>
- Eric went on in gorey detail to explain how much he had been
- victimized by others:
- first by the manager, then by corporate headquarters,
- then by the attack-dog collection agency.
-
- I found it very amusing when Eric was surprised that his victim act didn't get
- him anywhere with the collection agency.
- No shit.
- Collection agencies eat victims like popcorn...
- welcome to the real world.
-
- I do have to give his mother some credit though...
- she seems to have stayed out of it without alienating Eric.
- A nice piece of work.
- With Eric so quick to give up responsibility for himself,
- I can only wonder at how she avoided the parental temptation to ``fix'' her son.
- Maybe she wants him to ``unfix'' himself.
- Get some balls Eric... SERIOUSLY!!! c'mon, you can do it.
-
- I did like this exchange between Eric and Bally corporate in Michigan:
- >"Yes, but it IS in the CONTRACT, in plain black and white."
- >
- >"Can I talk to someone a little higher up in the organization, like
- >the people who train Club manager's for instance."
- >
- >"Sorry, sir, I can't give out that inforamtion."
- Good for that person. Stay away from that victim shit.
-
-
- The real problem (and the reason I am writing this) came at the end...
- >I hung up on him, and called Bally Headquaters. After a long wait, I
- >was talking to Mike again. This time he checked with his superiors, and
- >told me that [attack dog] guy was just trying to scare money out of me, and
- >that Bally would take care of everything once "they" received my fifty bucks.
- My philosophy is:
- Life keeps presenting lessons to me for me to learn.
- As long as I haven't learned that lesson,
- life will keep presenting it to me until I learn it.
- Once I've learned a lesson, I move on to the next lesson.
- Eric clearly hasn't learned his lesson yet.
- Now he's giving control of his life over to Bally corporate.
-
- >I am now sending the letter out, and the fifty bucks to Bally in
- >hopes of clearing up this matter for once and for all.
- >
- >I hope that I haven't been misled again, and this will clear up
- >matters once and for all.
-
- This may or may not work in this situation. It doesn't matter.
- The real issue is that you are not taking responsibility for your life.
- You are willing to do what THEY tell you to do and
- sit back and hope, hope, hope, hope, hope, hope, hope, hope, hope, hope
- victim, victim, victim, victim, victim, victim, victim, victim, victim
-
- Instead of all this crap, do something positive about your life.
- See a therapist.
- Or since you've said how poor you are, call 312-WARRIOR a low cost
- alternative to conventional therapy for men.
-
- Give up this victim crap and take charge of your life.
-
- >Eric Rainbolt
- > Any similar stories out there?
- Yes, I too am a recovering victim.
-
- Ray
- 312-764-0313 if you want to talk.
-