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- From: beaver.cs.washington.edu!gnosys!anchor.esd.sgi.com!lyn (Lyn Dearborn)
- Subject: Re: Five Defendants Sentenced in Alaska
- Message-ID: <9211180546.AA05535@anchor.esd.sgi.com>
- Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 05:46:23 GMT
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- Original-Sender: anchor.esd.sgi.com!lyn (Lyn Dearborn)
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- In a posting from Pete "<CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU!UKANVM.bitnet!PSHEMITZ>
- Pete recently commented to Peshe:
- > it is certainly true that some people use environmentalism much as 19th
- > century missionaries of progress and nationalism used christianity. in
- > ...most environmentalists that i know are very cognizant of the rights of
- > indigenous peoples; and i'm not writing of just my coterie of friends ...
- > well aware of how the indigenous peoples have to be allowed the freedom to
- > make a better life, both socially and economically. i don't know what
- > experience soured you on environmentalists, but you seem overly pissed off
- > at a group that isn't as monolithic or blind as you may think.
-
- Two comments. The most important being that I KNOW EXACTLY what set Peshe
- off and totally soured him (I may be taking liberties with Peshe's feelings,
- but as another Native American person, I know what makes me "totally sour"
- when someone starts bubbling over with Environmental whitewash (I'm also an
- environmentalist/ethnobotanist by trade).... it was a good month of preaching
- from Alan McGowan.... Even my terminal groaned.... it gave all environ-
- mentalists a "bad name".... Its been a LONG time (a whole year) since the
- NatNet has had to suffer from that much hot air verbosity in the name of
- trying to impress SOMEONE (certainly not most of us) with alledged qualifi-
- cations from both sides..... It REALLY riles us when people act so Pompous!
-
- The other thing that can be somewhat hurtful, though I doubt that was your
- intention, is for a non-Indian to say things like how you're "well aware of
- how the indigenous peoples have to be allowed the freedom to make a better
- life, both socially and economically... It reminds me of a scene from
- Star Trek or Planet of the Apes where one group of alledgedly superior
- mammals want to sure that another group of "lower evolution" mammals is
- "allowed"/given the opportunity to a "normal" rate of progression toward
- a higher standard of living... What most Indian nations are striving for
- is UNMOLESTED self determination. We really don't WANT non-Indians groups
- saying we should be allowed the freedom to make a better life.... what we
- WANT/NEED/DESERVE is ACTION ... just butt out .... we don't need verbage to
- reassure of of the acknowledgement by White Society that we need the freedom
- to develop normally .... All the things are self evident.... Why can't non-
- Indians get the picture. The Indians who need poverty relief, need it because
- they have less than we do, NOT just because they're Indians.... though I would
- certainly help my brothers and sisters before I helped the poverty stricken
- south (in general).... There are zillions of church groups helping the
- nations poor whites and blacks, but the REAL Americans? Ha! give me a break...
-
- This is getting away from the original subject; sorry. I don't know if I've
- shed any light on the subject or not... and I hope that Peshe will forgive
- me for speaking on his behalf if I am wrong.... but someone HAD to say why
- SOME of us are sour on environmentalists in general. A truly sincere environ-
- mentalist is a wonderful thing, but SOME of them have become downright pious &
- overly self righteous to the point of some of us having fantasies about them
- throwing plastic detergent containers onto the roadway while driving through
- a rainforest without a muffler ... with a Native American cop about to
- stop the jerk and give him a very costly citation..
-
- Thanks for your input by the way ...
-
- Lyn
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