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- DAVE HAYWNIE OPINION ABOUT VIScorp & PIOS!
- Read All About the Sad Truth!
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- Comments From Dave Haynie on the Current Situation
-
- The following is an informal email interview conducted with Dave Haynie, Amiga
- Hardware Guru-Daddy, formerly of Commodore. The interview was conducted by Brian
- Sorli sorli@clas.ufl.edu of the [http://www.afn.org/~gang/] Gainesville Amiga
- Networking Group. Brian was nice enough to share the interview with The Amiga
- Web Directory and its users.
-
- Subject: Haynie joins AT team
- From: Dave Haynie
- Reply-To: Dave Haynie
- Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 11:07 EDT
-
- : Heh.... Can you clear up a few things about what is going on and what you
- : are involved with?
-
- Sure.
-
- : 1. Pios - a new company born from the ashes of the old and new Amiga
- : groups. Does Pios exist and how are you involved?
-
- I guess pios officially became a company on the 15th. I'm working under contract
- as their hardware guru, much in the same capacity as when I contracting for
- Amiga Technologies.
-
- : 2. Viscorp - alot of speculation about this company. Supposidly held a
- : conference in France on 5/19 - not sure myself - we have heard
- : nothing.
-
- I gather there was a conference on the 19th, but it was under NDA. I've only
- heard rumors of what went on. Last I heard, VIScorp is supposed to be making
- major announcements tommorrow (May 23, my birthday).
-
- : Are you in communication with Viscorp and will Pios and Viscorp work
- : together?
-
- Yes, and I hope so. I have e-talked with a few of the folks I know at VIScorp,
- but they couldn't really say much. The pios strategy is really counting on the
- AmigaOS, since that's the enabling OS for low end multimedia systems (pios may
- offer other OSs on their standard PPCP machine, just because that's easy to do
- and may let us have product before the PowerAmiga OS is done). I'm hoping
- VIScorp is open to collaboration on this. The one thing we definitely don't want
- is a fragmented AmigaOS -- there has to be one API, one binary standard, etc.
-
- : 3. Phase 5 - I guess they just got sick of waiting for Amiga Technologies
- : to make the right moves.
-
- Perhaps, AT did take too long to start on the Power Amiga stuff (it didn't even
- start happening until late last November). I suspect everyone at AT was a victim
- of ESCOM's money problems, even back then (though we didn't know about them). I
- also think there's a little animosity on the part of phase 5 -- I think they
- were expecting more an embrace of their stuff from AT than they got. They do,
- apparently, have a simple way of running an AmigaOS emulator on a PPC with
- native graphics support, though they didn't have anything ready to show last
- February. Since Andy and I were advising AT, we insisted in doing things right.
- Their approach on the software front is kind of a hack, and on the hardware
- front it's just too much like the old Commodore; at best, they'll wind up with
- interesting, non-standard, and overpriced machines that can't keep up with the
- rapid changes in the industry. Computing in the 90s is radically different than
- it was in the 80s or 70s. Things have just gotten more complicated. Chips are
- far more complex to design, so you need larger volumes to make them practical at
- all, and they might last only 1/2-1/4 as long in the market as their equivalents
- of 10 years ago. IC processes have gotten exponentially more expensive, to the
- point that only the top IC makers in the world have state-of-the-art fabs, and
- even these guys are having to get together on the next generation fabs.
-
- : It is ovious Phase5 has big plans for the future Power Amiga and
- : alot to do with bringing the Power Amiga into existence.
-
- The real question I have about phase 5's plan, all practical bits aside, is
- this: will they sell you a Power Amiga, or a PhasePower system that,
- oh-by-the-way runs Amiga 68K binaries. They're talking about writing their own
- "advanced" OS as the native PPC part, and they're letting the 68K emulator hook
- into some bits, like their graphics subsystem. That's not the same thing as a
- real AmigaOS port, and I don't think the Amiga community can support multiple
- OSs -- an Amiga runs the AmigaOS, and only the owner of that (presumable
- VIScorp) gets to say just what that is and isn't.
-
- Not to mention the fact that it takes a long time to write a good OS. I know of
- three new OSs written by experienced OS people (rare, in these days of Microsoft
- dominance): Scala's MMOS, the 3DO OS, and the BeOS. Scala and 3DO took each took
- over three years for their OSs, and neither was intended as a general purpose
- personal computer OS. Be's OS work started five years ago, and they're still
- clearly in the beta testing phase (with some modules not out of alpha yet).
- Either phase 5 is adpoting some other, unnamed OS, stealing the AmigaOS,
- offering up an ugly hack, or they're not shipping any new OS in 1997.
-
- : The Pios homepage mentioned that Pios was planning on working with
- : anyone and everyone to achieve the ultimate goal -- bringing the
- : ultimate Power Amiga to life.
-
- Absolutely.
-
- : Are there any plans for Pios, Viscorp, Amiga Technologies, and
- : Phase5 working together on this effort?
-
- Folks from pios and VIScorp are meeting to talk this week. Amiga Technologies,
- far as I can tell, is no longer a factor -- there are no technical folks left
- there. It's either a sales arm of VIScorp, a sales arm of ESCOM, or cancelled.
- It would be nice to get phase 5 to cooperate on the PowerAmigaOS, rather than
- going their own way, but I don't know if they will or not.
-
- : We meet at the Amiga Atlantic Banquet back in February...
-
- You mean the Amiga Atlanta Banquet in January?
-
- : and I remember how knowledgeable and upfront you were with me and
- : everyone you spoke with.
-
- Well, with all we've been through, the last thing the Amiga community needs is
- more bullshit. So I try to tell it like I see it, at least as far as any NDAs
- permit.
-
- : P.S. If Pios plans on working with the other groups mentioned above -
- : everyone would benefit from this knowledge. Get the word out as soon as
- : possible.
-
- All of pios supports this kind of cooperation. Not that we have all that many
- people yet :-).
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