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- From: swf@tools3teradata.com (Stan Friesen)
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- Subject: Re: Ideology and Indoctrination
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- Date: 28 Jan 93 22:28:20 GMT
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- In article <1k1u4lINN69f@fido.asd.sgi.com>, livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey) writes:
- |>
- |> I think you are contradicting yourself here in a fairly obvious
- |> way. If you can quote Gould on the subject, then it is *not*
- |> the case that things are being hidden. Gould's books are in
- |> all the bookstores I visit.
- |>
- |> As a matter of fact, IMHO Gould is right, and not nearly enough
- |> attention was paid to evidence of stasis.
-
- There is something even more subtle at work. As Gould discusses in his essay
- in this month's issue of Natural History, it is very difficult to see 'nothing'
- as evidence of something. Thus there was an all to easily understood blindness
- to certain things.
-
- One of the major contributions of FGould and Eldridge's punctuated equilibrium
- model is that it focuses attention on this 'nothing', so it could be properly
- analyzed.
-
- Note that the quote in Johnson's article from Gould is quite old. Since that
- time, and largely *because* of Gould, this deficiency has been largely corrected.
- You would not see him making that statement today - the situation has changed.
-
- This is, in fact the difference between Creationism and science. In science,
- when a deficiency is noted, it is corrected. In Creationism deficiencies are
- generally ignored. (Based on the evidence that they continue to brin up the
- same tired old issues over and oever again).
-
- |> If we ever *stop* hearing scientists accusing one another of not
- |> paying enough attention to the evidence, then will be the time
- |> to worry.
-
- Truly spoken brother!
-
- And gadflies like Gould (and Bakker) are a critical part of the process,
- they help keep the rest of us on our toes.
-
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- Stanley.Friesen@ElSegundoCA.ncr.com
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