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- From: onar@hsr.no (Onar Aam)
- Subject: Re: Has Macro-evolution Occured?
- Message-ID: <1993Jan26.164949.3683@hsr.no>
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- Organization: Rogaland University Centre
- References: <1jo29o$srt@agate.berkeley.edu> <1993Jan23.233659.24533@microsoft.com> <1993Jan25.145853.1@woods.ulowell.edu>
- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:49:49 GMT
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- >In article <1993Jan23.233659.24533@microsoft.com>, russpj@microsoft.com (Russ Paul-Jones) writes:
- >> Human embryos develop gill-slits at an early stage, later to lose them.
- >
- >It's my understanding that evolutionists no longer view this as evidence for
- >evolution.
- >--Ray Cote
-
- What I think you are referring to is the theory (I don't recall its name) on the
- developemental stages of the embryo. It stated that the embryo goes roughly
- through all the early stages of evolution. It starts of as a single-celled
- organism, continues through the fish stage etc. until it reaches the "highest"
- level, humans. (it was then widely misbelieved that humans are at the top of the
- evolutionary hill) This theory was used to explain Down's Syndrome. Whites were
- considered (by whites of course!) to be above other human races in the
- evolutionary line. And people with Down's Syndrome, who developed some typical
- Mongolian traits, were believed to have stagnated in their developement and had
- stopped at a lower evolutionary level. It was believed that greater mental
- retardation would make you black or a chimp. It was also speculated on whether
- this explained the birth of mythical monsters who resembled wolves and the like.
- In hindsight it is easy to see how racial beliefs influenced the scientific
- theories. But greater understanding on evolutionary divergence and the
- hierarchical, tree-structured arangement of evolutionary descent has long since
- refuted these theories.
-
- HOWEVER, as Chris wrote, the earlier stages of developement in an embryo is more
- "immune" to changes than the latter stages. This is because a change in the
- developement system will lead to *divergence* from the original organism. The
- earlier a change occurs, the more the descendent will diverge from the original.
- Now, ordinary probability theory tells us that it much more likely that a large
- change will be unsuccessful than a small change. Therefore it is much more likely
- that changes will occur in the latter stages of developement rather than in the
- earlier stages. Hence the earlier stages will be better preserved in all
- organisms than the latter stages. And in general, closely related species will
- diverge at a later stage of developement than not so closely related species. A
- good example of this is the human-chimp relation. In the sixth week after
- conception the chimp- and the human embryo are virtually identical. (I am no
- expert on this but I am sure someone can confirm it). This implies a close
- relation between the two, which is confirmed palaentologically and genetically.
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- Onar.
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