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- From: epowers@mccoy (POWERS)
- Subject: Re: They want to debate Phillip Johnson
- Message-ID: <1993Jan26.231136.8562@nmsu.edu>
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- Organization: New Mexico State University
- References: <1jvlplINNl54@fido.asd.sgi.com>
- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 23:11:36 GMT
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- In article <1jvlplINNl54@fido.asd.sgi.com> livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com
- (Jon Livesey) writes:
- > In article <C1DrDw.39y@world.std.com>, pduggan@world.std.com (Paul C
- Duggan) writes:
- > |> In article <1993Jan24.134326@IASTATE.EDU> kv07@IASTATE.EDU (Warren
- Vonroeschlaub) writes:
- > |> >In article <qXiuXB1w165w@kalki33.lakes.trenton.sc.us>,
- > |> >system@kalki33.lakes.trenton.sc.us (Kalki Dasa) writes:
- > |> >>The basis of Darwinism is materialism, i.e. the proposition that
- > |> >>there is nothing in existence except matter and material energy,
- and
- > |> >>nothing ever influences matter except other matter or material
- energy.
- > |> >
- > |> > False.
- > |> >[...]
- > |> > If you cannot devise a test for these things, then they might as
- well not
- > |> >exist. What difference does it make?
- > |>
- > |> A test that a scientist would use would be a test involving material
- energy
- > |> or matter, would it not? So how is that you describe the materialist
- > |> presupposition of Darwinism as "False"? You seem to be saying the
- > |> exact same thing by your request for a material test.
- > |>
- > |> Am I mistaken?
- >
- > You can have a material test for the material effects of immaterial
- > influences.
- >
- > jon.
-
- No, you can't. Anything observed is always assumed to have a
- natural cause, whether or not a naturalistic explanation is immediately
- apparent. The supernatural is automatically cut out of science.
- Erik Powers
-