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- From: jsanders@phys.ksu.edu (Justin M. Sanders)
- Newsgroups: talk.origins
- Subject: Re: Topic for Discussion?
- Date: 27 Jan 1993 14:33:06 GMT
- Organization: Department of Physics, Kansas State University, Manhattan KS, USA
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- In article <1k5cffINNc6s@fido.asd.sgi.com> livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey) writes:
- >In article <1993Jan26.083653.9970@smds.com>, rh@smds.com (Richard Harter) writes:
- >|>
- >|> But, in the case of life as we know it, you haven't made your case
- >|> as far as I can see. For any genome, either there are some environments
- >|> in which organisms having that genome are viable, or there are no
- >|> such environments. [Or do I have a false dichotomy? :-)] Now it
- >|> it at least logically possible that one could actually determine
- >|> which genomes were potentially viable and which were not, and that
- >|> genomes when restricted by potential viability formed disjoint bounded
- >|> sets.
- >
- >Now you are back to particular genomes. Showing that in fact a
- >particular genome got itself into the state where further
- >micro-evolutionary changes led to non-viability is what I would
- >expect. However, I don't expect that to be the case for all genomes.
-
- I guess the creationist claim would be that ALL "kinds" start off in
- states isolated by non-viable nodes-- there is no need for a particular
- genome to "get itself" into such a state, since all genomes start off in
- such a state.
-
- You (Jon) in that case would have to argue that there exists at least
- one viable path connecting two "kinds" (where "kind" is some pair of
- taxa that you and the creationist agree are distinct).
-
- --
- Justin M. Sanders "As the grandest mill in the world will not
- Dept. of Physics extract wheat-flour from peascods, so pages
- Kansas State Univ. of formulae will not get a definite result
- Manhattan, KS from loose data." -- T.H. Huxley
-