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- From: lippard@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu (James J. Lippard)
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- Subject: Re: Ideology and Indoctrination
- Message-ID: <25JAN199322265351@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu>
- Date: 26 Jan 93 05:26:00 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan25.152051@IASTATE.EDU>, danwell@IASTATE.EDU (Daniel A Ashlock) writes...
- >In article <1k0tpu$5mp@agate.berkeley.edu>, philjohn@garnet.berkeley.edu
- >(Phillip Johnson) writes:
- >> We also owe them to the
- >> assumption of the writers that the rulers of "science" are not
- >> accountable to the public for what they do. Dr. Gallo and Dr.
- >> Baltimore made similar assumptions in believing that they were
- >> beyond accountability.
- >
- > That's just plain not true. Baltimore has a subordinate who lied
- >and falsified data; he didn't believe she did it: at no time did he act
- >as if he was not accountable and he was in fact held accountable. You've
- >aluded to Science magazine before. The whole controversy was chronicled in
- >there. Where on earth do you see evidence that Baltimore did not think he was
- >accountable?
-
- I have to side with Johnson on this one. Baltimore told Margot O'Toole,
- who had proved her case beyond all doubt, that anywhere she went with
- her story, he would go too, and he would be believed because he had a Nobel
- prize and she didn't. For all the horrifying details of this case, see
- Robert Bell's _Impure Science_, which just came out last year. _Science_
- also fell down on the job regarding this case, just as it did regarding
- Robert Sprague's attempt to blow the whistle on fraud by one of his former
- students. I believe they sat on Walter Stewart's paper on the Thereza
- Imanishi-Kari/Baltimore case for a full three years before publishing it.
- It took Congressional hearings and a Secret Service investigation to get
- the case resolved.
-
- Jim Lippard Lippard@CCIT.ARIZONA.EDU
- Dept. of Philosophy Lippard@ARIZVMS.BITNET
- University of Arizona
- Tucson, AZ 85721
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