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- From: lippard@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu (James J. Lippard)
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- Subject: Re: Ideology and Indoctrination
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- Date: 25 Jan 93 19:00:00 GMT
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- In article <1k0tpu$5mp@agate.berkeley.edu>, philjohn@garnet.berkeley.edu (Phillip Johnson) writes...
- >Chris Colby complains that Darwin on Trial reports that
- >biologists have been hiding things from the public. Why not,
- >when leading figures have admitted as much on behalf of their
- >profession? It is not I but Stephen Jay Gould who described the
- >prevalence of stasis and sudden appearance in the fossil record
- >as the "trade secret" of paleontology. Stephen Stanley has
- >written that the doubts of paleontologists about the conformity
- >of the fossil record with Darwinist gradualism were for long
- >"suppressed." Most revealing of all, Niles Eldredge confessed in
- >print that "We paleontologists have said that the history of life
- >supports [the story of gradual adaptive change], all the while
- >really knowing that it does not." That is a smoking gun indeed.
-
- They have, perhaps, been hiding things from the public in the sense
- that they don't make public statements about them (though you've
- cited some clear counterexamples), but not in the sense that there
- is some kind of organized conspiracy. People in any profession don't
- like to emphasize the weak points in public--how much of mainstream
- biblical scholarship makes it from the seminary to the pulpit?
- (I'm not defending this practice; I think this is one of the useful
- aspects of creationism--to shine a light on perceived weaknesses
- in evolution, forcing scientists to either correct their misperceptions
- and educate the general public or to work harder at shoring up the
- actual weaknesses.)
-
- In a section of your article I've inadvertently deleted, you made
- reference to the David Baltimore case. After doing some reading
- on fraud in science, I have to agree that there appear to be some
- institutional problems in science which need changing. (See Robert
- Bell's _Impure Science_, published last year by John Wiley & Sons,
- for extensive documentation. A couple of other, older books on the
- subject are William Broad and Nicholas Wade's _Betrayers of the
- Truth_ and Alexander Kohn's _False Prophets_.)
-
- >Darwinist indoctrination makes its victims incapable of
- >understanding that the fundamental problem of biological
- >evolution, or creation, is not diversity within the type but the
- >origin of complexity. It is pathetic to see advanced biology
- >students (or faculty members) say that natural selection does not
- >have to be "the least bit creative" to be "the primary mechanism
- >responsible for bringing about, from a single common ancestor,
- >all of the species on earth and their phenotypic features."
- >That isn't even reasonable by the standards of Darwinist
- >literature, where the creative power of natural selection is
- >often extolled hyperbolically. As Richard Dawkins puts it,
- >a single cell has more genetic information than all the volumes
- >of an encyclopedia. If you don't understand that explaining the
- >origin of all that information presents a serious problem,
- >it is probably because indoctrination in the notion
- >that population fluctuation in the peppered moth is the paradigm
- >example of evolution in action has a tendency to cloud the mind.
-
- You are not claiming that complexity cannot naturally increase, are
- you? We have abundant evidence to the contrary. There are the cases
- of apparent directed mutation which John Cairns and Barry Hall have
- been investigating (which Chris Colby recently alluded to), there
- is the whole field of artificial life (with Thomas Ray's Tierra program
- showing some interesting things), and there's the non-equilibrium
- thermodynamics people (Brooks and Wiley, Prigogine).
-
- Jim Lippard Lippard@CCIT.ARIZONA.EDU
- Dept. of Philosophy Lippard@ARIZVMS.BITNET
- University of Arizona
- Tucson, AZ 85721
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