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- From: rlg@omni (Randy garrett)
- Newsgroups: talk.origins
- Subject: Re: Duane T. Gish, Ph. D.
- Date: 25 Jan 1993 17:59:21 GMT
- Organization: IDA, Alexandria, VA
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- :
- : >Few of the claims that Gish makes are difficult to descredit because
- : >they are so absurd. However, a few I've had difficulty locating
- : >information on in my home library. ...
- :
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- Gish regularly debates pretty well educated opponents and they
- don't seem to find it quite so easy to cite specific counterexamples.
-
-
- : I don't think that you'll be able to find anything to directly refute
- : this, partly because the premise is so ludicrous. I don't suppose
- : that Gish has a source for his "According to..." statement, hmmm?
- : Where on earth could you find someone who would make a claim like
- : that? And would any old invertebrate do, or did he have one of them
- : in mind?
-
- ICR is pretty precise about quoting references, so I'll bet someone
- did say this in print. You may be right in saying that the quote
- is absurd, but I have seen some pretty absurd things in respected
- journals and texts myself.
-
- : >CLAIM #2: "Darwin cited the giraffe as an outstanding example of
- : >natural selection. Supposedly, as a result of extended droughts, the
- : >supply of green leaves could be obtained only at the top of the trees,
- : >and therefore the shorter necked giraffe died off. And the giraffes
- : >which grew longer necks survived. However, there is no evidence
- : >whatever in the fossil record or elsewhere that giraffes with short
- : >necks have ever existed.
- :
- : If you ever meet Mr. Gish, please tell him to visit some zoos and look
- : for an animal called an okapi. You don't need a fossil record when
- : the organism in question still exists.
- :
-
- I don't believe the claim is that no animals with short necks
- exist (my own neck, for example), just that no intermediate
- length neck giraffes, or their direct ancestors, are known.
- Unless you are claiming that okapis are direct ancestors?
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