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- From: livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey)
- Newsgroups: talk.origins
- Subject: Re: They want to debate Phillip Johnson
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- Date: 25 Jan 93 03:11:49 GMT
- References: <qXiuXB1w165w@kalki33.lakes.trenton.sc.us> <1993Jan24.134326@IASTATE.EDU> <C1DrDw.39y@world.std.com>
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- In article <C1DrDw.39y@world.std.com>, pduggan@world.std.com (Paul C Duggan) writes:
- |> In article <1993Jan24.134326@IASTATE.EDU> kv07@IASTATE.EDU (Warren Vonroeschlaub) writes:
- |> >In article <qXiuXB1w165w@kalki33.lakes.trenton.sc.us>,
- |> >system@kalki33.lakes.trenton.sc.us (Kalki Dasa) writes:
- |> >>The basis of Darwinism is materialism, i.e. the proposition that
- |> >>there is nothing in existence except matter and material energy, and
- |> >>nothing ever influences matter except other matter or material energy.
- |> >
- |> > False.
- |> >[...]
- |> > If you cannot devise a test for these things, then they might as well not
- |> >exist. What difference does it make?
- |>
- |> A test that a scientist would use would be a test involving material energy
- |> or matter, would it not? So how is that you describe the materialist
- |> presupposition of Darwinism as "False"? You seem to be saying the
- |> exact same thing by your request for a material test.
- |>
- |> Am I mistaken?
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- You can have a material test for the material effects of immaterial
- influences.
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- jon.
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