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- From: livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey)
- Newsgroups: talk.origins
- Subject: Re: Topic for Discussion?
- Date: 25 Jan 1993 03:03:27 GMT
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- References: <1jo29o$srt@agate.berkeley.edu> <106254@netnews.upenn.edu> <1jq3p3INNa89@fido.asd.sgi.com> <1993Jan24.023652.8439@galois.mit.edu>
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- In article <1993Jan24.023652.8439@galois.mit.edu>, tycchow@riesz.mit.edu (Timothy Y. Chow) writes:
- |> In article <1jq3p3INNa89@fido.asd.sgi.com> livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey) writes:
- |> <Secondly, the obvious "escape" here is to say "Well, micro-
- |> <evolution doesn't actually consult a species representation,
- |> <it's just that eventually cumulative micro-evolution produces
- |> <non-functional organisms. In fact, that's not an escape,
- |> <because now you're saying that the representation "valid species"
- |> <is a function of the species+environment, and micro-evolution
- |> <can continue to produce cumulatively differing changes as long
- |> <as it stays within this representation. But the information
- |> <in "species+environment" certainly changes over time. In fact,
- |> <that's the point, isn't it.
- |>
- |> I don't understand your argument. Imagine a "genotype graph" where each
- |> node is a genotype and the edges represent microevolutionary steps. Why
- |> can't there be a set of nodes that is "isolated" in the sense that it is
- |> bordered by genotypes which code seriously dysfunctional organisms that
- |> can't exist in any environment short of an intensive care unit? I think
- |> you need to appeal to what we actually know about extant genotypes; I don't
- |> think you can argue your case purely on extremely general considerations,
- |> as you seem to be trying to do.
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- I think you are misunderstanding what I'm saying. I'm not saying
- that there can't be unreachable places in such a graph. I'm saying
- that you can't prove in general that divergence has some limit.
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- jon.
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