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- From: throopw@sheol.UUCP (Wayne Throop)
- Newsgroups: talk.origins
- Subject: Re: Yet Another Saturn Myth Variant
- Summary: this variant doesn't work much better than the others Ted has proposed
- Message-ID: <727600390@sheol.UUCP>
- Date: 21 Jan 93 04:52:22 GMT
- References: <222@fedfil.UUCP> <C13oKn.Az3@world.std.com>
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- : From: news@fedfil.UUCP (news)
- : Message-ID: <222@fedfil.UUCP>
- : Aside from every other version of the Saturnian configuration which I've
- : seen in print, there is one which I've wondered about and which it turns
- : out that Ginenthal himself espouses; I was sort of taken aback by this.
- : In a way, it makes a bit more sense than any of the others.
- : This would involve Earth and possibly one or two other small planets
- : being suspended BETWEEN Jupiter and Saturn, possible at or near some point
- : of equal attraction, which you might call a "baricenter" or some such.
-
- You *might* call it one of the LaGrange points (I think it's L1, but I'm
- not sure). It is dynamically unstable (only L4 and L5 are stable, and
- I'm not sure Jupiter/Saturn would form L4 and L5 points). Maybe
- Ginenthal "himself" should re-hire Strabismus for some simple
- calculations on orbital dynamics. The situation would blow up in days
- or weeks, and could not possibly remain stable throughout a "golden
- age", let alone two, as Ted requires here:
-
- : This would have the benefit of allowing the switch from the "age of Kronos"
- : to the age of Zeus via a simple flip of the earth on its pole.
-
- Ha!! "simple flip" he says. Very amusing, Ted.
-
- But note, only tides and not direct gravitation of the bodies involved
- would apply to the "felt effect" reduction Ted wants, which means that
- the two tug-of-war contending planets would have to be too close to
- earth to give the visual effects Talbott and Holden claim for them (in
- particular, according to a quick botec I just did, they'd have to be
- within the rings of Saturn).
-
- :: From: twalters@world.std.com (Tim Walters)
- :: Message-ID: <C13oKn.Az3@world.std.com>
- :: Gee, Ted, what would happen to the felt effect of gravity if the earth
- :: were suspended at a point of equal attraction like that? Wouldn't it
- :: be 1g?
-
- Well, no, this doesn't happen to be one of the things wrong with this
- scenario. Tides don't cancel out (though, as you point out and I allude
- to above, direct gravitation WOULD cancel out).
-
- So ANYway, this doesn't work any better than Ted's traditional scenario,
- and in some ways is worse. (And they both require some magic force to
- stabilize an inherrently unstable configuration, and place more stress
- on the planet than it can take.)
- --
- Wayne Throop ...!mcnc!dg-rtp!sheol!throopw
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