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- From: Jym Dyer <jym@mica.berkeley.edu>
- Newsgroups: talk.environment
- Subject: Re: "A Quarter Billion Years" (Greenpeace Press Releases)
- Date: 25 Jan 1993 12:22:25 GMT
- Organization: The Naughty Peahen Party Line
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- >>> "Nuclear wastes remain dangerous for a quarter billion
- >>> years" . . . Listed as one of the facts being taught to
- >>> children in a Colorado environmental education program.
- >> I provided the the phone number of the people involved and
- >> invited critics of Greenpeace to call it and find out whether
- >> it was, in fact, a typo. Nobody did . . .
- > Hold it, Jym. I called Jason (the name of the Greenpeace
- > spokesman) on two occasions, originally to check to see
- > if he really thought 0.25 billion was the correct number,
- > and later to assess his understanding of the opinions
- > he was presenting as fact. I received his permission to
- > summarize his remarks to the net, and did so. You must
- > have missed the posting.
-
- =o= I guess I must have. I apologize for saying that nobody
- called the phone number.
-
- > Jason was surprised to learn that "billion" was incorrect,
- > but on checking found that it was, indeed, a typo . . .
-
- =o= Interesting. I don't remember the name of the contact
- I called (or even if there were more than one), but he said,
- immediately, that it was a typo. Who knows, perhaps it was
- this Jason, and he'd just gotten off the phone with you.
-
- =o= I also brought the matter up on Environet, Greenpeace's
- BBS, where the fact that it was a typo was also quickly
- confirmed.
-
- > My point is exactly that the "GreenPeace spokesman" who wrote
- > the press release and the curriculum for the Colorado school
- > children . . .
-
- =o= Is Jason indeed the person who wrote the curriculum? If
- so, I agree completely that this is a serious error. If not,
- I agree that so incompetent a person should not be cited as
- a contact.
-
- > I quit reading GreenPeace press releases as a result of my
- > conversations with Jason, and because of the high volume and
- > low information content of the postings.
-
- =o= I disagree about the low information content: they provide
- a lot of information that is pertinent to environmental issues
- and not otherwise readily available online. If you're looking
- for *scientific* information content, press releses aren't the
- place to look, but the few that do have such content get cross-
- posted to sci.environment.
-
- > Jym, it is a *fact* that GreenPeace has low credibility
- > in the scientifically literate community. The stridency,
- > sloganeering, and lack of rigor in typical GreenPeace
- > statements is, I think, the main cause.
-
- =o= I make a distinction between research and "statements."
- <_Jym_>
-