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- From: lebow@psl.nrl.navy.mil
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- Subject: Re: When will We See the Changes in the Stats...
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- Date: 28 Jan 93 00:36:32 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan27.170412.11348@wdl.loral.com> bard@cutter.ssd.loral.com (J
- H Woodyatt) writes:
- >dsh@eceyv.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
- ># regard@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com (Adrienne Regard) writes:
- ># > The incredible misogyny of deciding a person vs. a perhaps-we-aren't-sure-
- ># > and-anyway-it's-harming-it's-host not-person in favor of the latter
- ># > boggles the mind.
- ># >
- ># > The incredible mysogyny of reducing a woman to a breeding animal because
- of
- ># > *your* *personal* values also boggles the mind.
- ># >
- ># > It isn't a simple either/or scenario. What abortion restriction entails
- is
- ># > returning women to the status of chattel, and nothing less.
- >#
- ># Sheesh, and to think that *I* get accused of "cheap emotionalism"
- ># because I use the term "child" instead of "fetus". Ms. Regard goes
- ># whole hog here, using heavy emotionally-laden terms like "breeding
- ># animal", "misogyny", "chattel", all the while ignoring the simple
- ># fact that the vast majority of women in America do not support
- ># unrestricted abortion-on-demand.
- >
- >Actually, Mr. Holtsinger, if you wanted to be honest, you'd write that
- >a majority of Americans of *both* genders don't support unrestricted
- >abortion on demand without apology.
- >
- >Furthermore, Mr. Holtsinger, if I were you, I would dismiss charges
- >that I employ `cheap emotionalism' as trivial and concentrate on the
- >much more damaging charges of `egregious lying and distortion.'
- >
- ># Are the women who oppose abortion
- ># "misogynists", Ms. Regard?
- >
- >Are the *men* and women who oppose abortion `misogynists?' -- would be
- >the appropriate question.
-
- What's the difference? I'd like to see an answer to either. So would my women
- pro-life friends.
-
- >
- ># Do they think of themselves as
- ># "breeding animals"? Surely you must have a better opinion of
- ># American women than that.
- >
- >Some of us have grown to harbor a certain contempt for the majority
- >opinion, Mr. Holtsinger -- there is no shame in that. A majority of
- >Americans think miscegenation is immoral, and a truly shocking (but
- >not quite a majority) proportion of them think it should be illegal.
- >I have contempt for that majority opinion as well.
- >
- >Are the majority of American women who oppose miscegenation `racist?'
- >
- >
-
- How does this relate to the question????
-
- >--
- >+---------------------------+ I wasn't expecting it. When Danny Elfman
- >| J H Woodyatt | sang the words, `goo goo ga choo,' Sunday
- >| bard@cutter.ssd.loral.com | night, I cracked. Some horrors are too
- >+---------------------------+ large to shade out.
- >
- >
-
- - Paul
-