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- From: kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy)
- Subject: Re: Does James Keegan support Cochran's mandatory sterilization program?
- Message-ID: <1993Jan28.022116.11613@rotag.mi.org>
- Organization: Who, me???
- References: <1993Jan24.213641.11219@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> <1993Jan25.002653.27175@rotag.mi.org> <1993Jan27.061231.12418@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
- Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 02:21:16 GMT
- Lines: 79
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- In article <1993Jan27.061231.12418@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mark A. Cochran) writes:
- >In article <1993Jan25.002653.27175@rotag.mi.org> kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy) writes:
- >>In article <1993Jan24.213641.11219@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mark A. Cochran) writes:
- >>>In article <1993Jan24.153318.10342@ncsu.edu> dsh@eceyv.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
- >>>>In article <1993Jan24.090739.1885@netcom.com>
- >>>>ray@netcom.com (Ray Fischer) writes:
- >>>>>dsh@eceyv.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes ...
- >>>>>>judi@wam.umd.edu (Jay T Stein -- Conan the Grammarian) writes:
- >>>>>>>dsh@eceyv.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
- >>>>
- >>>>>>>> "Personally, I think we need to develop some sort of 100% reversable
- >>>>>>>> steralization procedure, and make it mandatory for both sexes to be
- >>>>>>>> steralized to enter school."
- >>>>>>>>
- >>>>>>>> kcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Keith Cochran)
- >>>>>>>> <1993Jan17.210349.13155@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
- >>>>
- >>>>>>> I still don't agree with it, but suddenly Mark's suggestion doesn't seem
- >>>>>>> quite as severe, or as offensive.
- >>>>
- >>>>>> I don't know why it sounds better to you. I think both ideas
- >>>>>> are equally disgusting.
- >>>>
- >>>>> Why? Don't you support mandatory (forced) reversable pregnancy?
- >>>>
- >>>>No, I don't believe that people should be forced to have sexual
- >>>>intercourse against their will. Rape is a crime, and I'd like
- >>>>it to stay that way.
- >>>>
- >>>Which of course is merely your way of wriggling away from the direct
- >>>question DODie. Pregnancy is reversable, and yet you support forcing
- >>>women to remain pregnant, don't you?
- >>
- >>So, have we already established that Keith's mandatory sterilization
- >>position is at least EQUALLY as pro-force as Doug's presumed mandatory
- >>continuation-of-pregnancy position?
- >>
- >Oh hardly that Kebbin. After all, even if Keith was serious about
- >making the sterilization mandatory, he also left reversal as being an
- >option available to anyone at any time for any reason.
-
- Yeah, right, and pregnancy is "reversible" too -- just wait 9 months and
- one is unpregnant again. Kevin Welch got flamed royally for saying that
- "pregnancy is like a harmless slavery of sorts". Remember that? But when
- Keith Cochran says, in effect "reversible sterilization is like a
- temporary inability to reproduce", everyone is prepared to let the comment
- pass by. Uh huh. Seems a little selective there.
-
- >>First an abortion restriction, now this. How long before you show your
- >>_true_ colors, eh, Keith?
- >>
- >> - Kevin
- >>
- >>"...Kevin is now going to franticcally scurry along until her can find a
- >> 10+ month old article from me where I said that I would support some
- >> legislative stuff wrt abortion. And last year, I did."
- >> Keith A. Cochran, kcochran@isis.cs.du.edu
- >> Sun, 31 May 92 03:50:15 GMT
- >> <1992May31.035015.28326@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
- >
- >You need to be more creative in your editing Kibble (ask DODie for
- >pointers). Anyone who has the reading comprehension of a 3rd grader
- >can see that this statement is in the past tense. 'last year, I did'
- >does not imply current support.
-
- Where oh where did I imply "current support", O Ye of the Fantastic Reading
- Comprehension?
-
- >You *have* heard of people modifying their position, haven't you Kibble?
-
- Yes, and oftentimes I wonder whether the conversion is genuine, or just a
- temporary effect of peer-pressure...
-
- - Kevin
-
- "I'm only really good at judging colored semen contests, anyway."
- Susan Garvin, sgast+@pitt.edu
- 30 Dec 92 22:07:01 GMT
- <1235@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
-