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- From: dking@raul.nas.nasa.gov (Dan King)
- Subject: Re: Estimates of the incidence of illegal abortions
- References: <1993Jan15.125423.4796@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> <1993Jan15.233521. <1993Jan23.010405.8289@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> <C1Frr7.9zA@ra.nrl.navy.mil>
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- Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 00:55:34 GMT
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- In article <C1Frr7.9zA@ra.nrl.navy.mil> lebow@psl.nrl.navy.mil writes:
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- >I'm apparently much older than you. When I was in high school, prior to RvW,
- >abortions were not readily available. Teenage sex was extremely rare by
- >today's standards. To my knowledge in my school of 3,000 kids there were no
- >pregnancies. In any case, they were very rare. I knew some sexually
- >promiscuous guys and they ALWAYS carried a condom in their wallets and used
- >them. Believe it or not, the fear of getting a girl pregnant was very real to
- >these guys.
-
- If these are some of your arguments for why abortion should be
- illegal, isn't it also a very good argument for why condoms should
- be illegal. You say how the availability of abortion makes kids
- less concerned about getting pregnant, but in this paragraph you
- also say how promiscuous guys ALWAYS carried condoms. Wouldn't
- making it tougher for them to get condoms also make them less
- promiscuous? Could you please explain the difference to me?
-
- >Many types of contraceptives kill the recently conceived human. To many
- >pro-lifers this is no different than an abortion. Please take this into
- >account before jumping to the conclusion that all pro-lifers are against all
- >birth control.
-
- But the argument you use in this article can also be used by
- those that oppose all forms of birth control.
-
- >I can't speak for Edward but I would say to you (as I would my daughter),
- >"Please please don't have sex until you are financially and mentally able to
- >bear a child. If you must have sex, find ways that don't involve intromission.
- > Insist that your partner use a condom and you a spermicide and barrier
- >contraceptive. Ask your mother or school nurse or read a book on how to use
- >them. Know that I will not allow you to have an abortion unless your life is
- >threatened. " Aside from the anti-abortion statement, is what I've said so
- >unreasonable?
-
- I have taught my children that I don't believe they should have
- a sexual relation until they are ready. I have described to them
- the pitfalls as I see them to having sexual relations prior to
- being ready. I have also explained to them, much as you have,
- what to do just in case they do not head my advise and have sex
- prior to being ready. They should be responsible in that case and
- use birth control. Just as I can not always count on them to head
- my advise regarding when to have sex, I also recognize that they
- may not head my advise in how to have sexual relationships
- responsibly. In that case, I am glad that the option of
- abortion is available to them. So why do you allow your children
- to take precautions if they don't listen to you in one instant,
- but don't allow them precautions in another.
-
- >- Paul
-
- Dan King
-