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- From: dan@Ingres.COM (a Rose arose)
- Subject: Re: Abortions should be rare
- Message-ID: <1993Jan26.185156.4128@pony.Ingres.COM>
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- Date: 26 Jan 93 18:51:56 GMT
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- Although we stand on opposite sides of the choice/life contraversy, here is a
- message from a pro-choicer that touches the heart and speaks of goals I feel
- should be strongly desired by both sides.
-
- Dan
-
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- cj@eno.esd.sgi.com.esd.sgi.com (C.J. Silverio) writes:
- :
- : In article <1993Jan25.115252.2129@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu>, hasselbring@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu writes:
- : |According to both the Washington Post and the Washington Times,
- : |Clinton said that America should be a place where abortions are legal
- : |and safe, but rare.
- : |I wonder what he meant by rare. [...]
- :
- : Less common than they are now. I can think of a few great
- : ways to make abortion rare, without persecuting women by
- : making it illegal:
- :
- : 1. Better access to better birth control.
- : 2. Better sex education.
- : 3. Improved pre-natal care for poor women.
- : 4. Improved access to day care for women with children.
- : 5. Job training for women with small children.
- :
- : The approach is simple: prevent unwanted pregnancies, and
- : remove the circumstances that make women decide to choose
- : abortion. Prevention is by far the most cost-effective method.
- : The others are more expensive, but I'm sure you won't mind
- : paying for them.
- :
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- <Dan's notes> I think we could have greater success if we could do the
- following:
- 1--Encourage "morality" while providing better access to birth control.
- This would help reduce much of the counter-productive fighting
- between "family-value" folks and "liberals". By this I mean to
- show a positive rather than a negative view toward those who choose
- to abstain and remain monogamous. Stop presenting abstainers as
- childish prudes who cannot get a date and start representing them as
- self-disciplined, respectable, and wise people and you'll go far to
- remove much of the fighting back of the "family-values" folks. It's
- also a more honest approach.
- 2--Provide a more complete and morally acceptable sex education. Why?
- First, because many feel sick of the "immorality" and feel overly
- offended over what they feel is being forced upon their families.
- Second, because it is more expedient and efficient to present a
- wider exposure to sex education if you can do so without all the
- fighting between "family-values" folks and "liberals". If we can
- set aside our desires to "stick it to each other", much more good
- can be accomplished.
- 3--Improved pre-natal care for poor women--can you imagine the fear
- of having to go through pregnancy not knowing if your child is
- breach or in distress, or if you were going to be able to have
- an emergency ceasarean if you needed it? This is a basic need
- that is as important if not more so than meeting the needs of the
- homeless and cancer stricken. It must, must be met.
- 4--Improved access to day-care. This is another sore point for
- church folks as well as others. Why? Because many Sunday School
- rooms unused during the week go unused from lack of government
- funding for day-care centers that have any religious displays or
- teachings presented. If I want to take my child to a religious
- day-care center of my choice, I will either have to pay more or
- put up with lower quality or forget it. Why not let down a little
- on government restrictions on religion and take advantage of the
- rooms that are already available and ready?
- 5--Job training for women with small children. I'd like to take this
- one step further--how about job availability for women with small
- children? That is, why not give tax breaks and/or special
- recognition for those companies who provide jobs that meet the
- needs of single women (and men) with small children? I know that
- many feel this encourages people to have children out of wedlock
- and makes it easier for people to divorce, but I doubt it seriously.
- And we all know that the children and their providers need all the
- help we can give.
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