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- From: nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos)
- Subject: Re: Life begins at ...
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- References: <93022.013032KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu> <1993Jan22.202321.15474@ncar.ucar.edu> <93023.075954KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu> <1993Jan24.092455.2849@netcom.com>
- Date: 26 Jan 93 18:07:41 GMT
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- In <1993Jan24.092455.2849@netcom.com> ray@netcom.com (Ray Fischer) writes:
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- >Kurt Ludwick <KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu> writes ...
- >>Of course not. The whole idea I don't understand is that an individual's
- >>life doesn't begin, but it ends. You can't use multiple definitions of 'life'
- >>at once: first to mean an individual life, and second to mean life in general
- >>(which has no beginning and no ending). One has clear beginnings and endings,
- >>the other does not.
-
- >It may be that the term "individual life" is incorrect. It is more
- >likely that the claiming that such has a clear beginning is incorrect.
-
- >Just what is an "individual life" supposed to be?
-
- Jerome Lejeune, the geneticist who discovered the basis of Down's Syndrome,
- has some fascinating ideas on that. See "Chris Lyman's Massive Denial,
- Part 3" posted earlier today. The title is motivated by the following
- excerpt from this post:
-
- _________________________________excerpt_______________________
- >>Ron Graham (quoting Nat Hentoff?)
- >Lyman
-
- >> Once implantation takes place, this being has all the genetic
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^
- >> information within that makes each human being unique.
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- >Wrong. Wrong. WrongWrongWrongWrongWrongWrongWrongWrongWrongWrong!!!!!!
-
- Truly a case of massive denial, as will now be seen.
- ____________________________________end of excerpt_______________________
-
- Now, there are apparent exceptions to this rule, such as identical twins,
- but it has not yet been determined that these divisions are not programmed
- in at the start, in the normal course of events.
-
- As for more abnormal courses, here is what Dianne Nutwell Irving writes
- in an article to appear in _Accountability in Research_, Feb. 1993,
-
- And is it empirically true that these totipotent cells [in the
- freshly implanted blastocyst] "do not yet know whether to be
- one or two individuals" yet? Is it that they are traumatically
- so "undecided"? Of course if a totipotent cell is teased apart
- (mechanically or from natural circumstance)...from the early
- developing human being, it can develop into an adult-stage
- human being. But this phenomenon is *normal*! That is, totipotency
- is *programmed* into the single-cell human zygote just as *all* of
- the characteristically human developmental stages are.
- --from "The Impact of `Scientific Misinformation' on
- Other Fields: Philosophy, Theology, Biomedical Ethics,
- Public Policy"
-
- The point, it would appear, is that as long as the cells of the developing
- human being are in proper communication with each other, their totipotency
- is suppressed and they eventually develop harmoniously into a single human
- fetus, and then a single human neonate (barring premature "termination").
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- Peter Nyikos
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