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- From: mon@cray.com (Muriel Nelson)
- Subject: Re: Christian Pro-Choicers
- Message-ID: <1993Jan26.090905.26462@hemlock.cray.com>
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- References: <lm1g5pINNegu@ar-rimal.cs.utexas.edu> <1993Jan25.093753.3864@hemlock.cray.com> <lm8oeeINNgrg@ar-rimal.cs.utexas.edu>
- Date: 26 Jan 93 09:09:05 CST
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- In article <lm8oeeINNgrg@ar-rimal.cs.utexas.edu> brinkley@cs.utexas.edu (Paul Brinkley) writes:
- >In article <1993Jan25.093753.3864@hemlock.cray.com> mon@cray.com (Muriel Nelson) writes:
- >>How can the fetus' liberty be valuable? Of necessity, it is
- >>on a very short leash. It is in the nature of a fetus to
- >>have very little liberty. Whenever I see the argument that
- >>fetuses should have the same rights/liberties as anyone else,
- >>I always wonder, how are you going to go about allowing them
- >>to peaceably assemble?
- >
- >You've got a good point. I could say, "Well, if they WANT to, LET them
- >assemble!" :) Of course, that would be ludicrous.
- >
- Yes. It might be worth exploring _why_ it's ludicrous.
- Even if fetuses had such desires and were capable of
- communicating them, it would be imposssible to grant
- them such a right without removing the rights of the
- women involved to move about as they please.
-
- >(And then that Simpsons episode, where Maggie restored all those pacifiers
- >to the babies in the day-care center, comes to mind. All those babies just
- >sucking...spooky.)
- >
- >Perhaps what I should have said is that they should have the same
- >protection under the law as everyone else, rather than the same liberties/
- >rights.
- >
- >If you see a problem in THAT statement, let me know. I'm struggling with
- >this issue the same as the rest of you...
- >
- I do see a problem. Give fetuses the same protections
- as 'everyone else', and you automatically place pregnant
- women in a category where they enjoy fewer rights than
- all other born persons, and they have _less_ protection
- under the law than 'everyone else'.
-
- That's unacceptable.
-
- >Thanks for spotting that flaw in the wording.
- >
- Why, you're welcome.
-
- muriel
- standard disclaimer
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