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- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:48:19 EST
- From: Kurt Ludwick <KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu>
- Message-ID: <93026.004819KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu>
- Newsgroups: talk.abortion
- Subject: Re: Life begins at ...
- References: <93022.013032KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu>
- <1993Jan22.202321.15474@ncar.ucar.edu> <93023.075954KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu>
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- In article <1993Jan25.235837.1790@ncar.ucar.edu>, kauff@neit.cgd.ucar.edu (Brian
- Kauffman) says:
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- >> I can tell you with certainty when a tree's 'life' begins, and when it ends.
- >> Ditto for a human (though you won't agree. :)
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- >Similarly: at what point did "human life" begin?
-
- I say at conception; I imagine you disagree with that.
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- >I'm not playing semantic games. I'm simply asking you to pose an unambiguous
- >question. Perhaps I'm making some progress though. You've just introduced
- >the term "an individual's life". Does this imply that you agree that
- >human life, in general, is an ongoing continuum?
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- Yes. And an individual life lasts from one person's conception until
- his/her death. I don't understand what's ambiguous about all of this.
- (I'm asking you to be unambiguous about my ambiguousness... sorry. :-)
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- >In summary, please form a well-posed question. What is it you're asking?
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- I'm not sure I ever did pose a question; I think I objected to the idea that
- life (meaning MY life, YOUR life, etc) does not have a beginning, which I
- felt I was seeing in someone's post. But anyway:
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- >Q1: when did life begin?
- >Q2: when does an individual life begin?
- >Q3: when does an individual's (ie. a person's) life begin?
- >Q4: when during individual's life does the individual life become a "person"?
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- >It's all too common that someone will ask Q2, get an answer, and then carry
- >on as if the answer was to Q4. So what is "THE question" really asking?
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- In my opinion, question 2 and question 4 are (or should be) the same. It's
- a matter of what we decide a "person" is.
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- Kurt E. Ludwick | If PRO is the opposite of CON, then
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- kel111@psuvm.psu.edu | what's the opposite of Progress...?
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