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- From: kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy)
- Subject: Re: Supreme Court Upholds Freedom of Speech
- Message-ID: <1993Jan23.163207.18107@rotag.mi.org>
- Organization: Who, me???
- References: <1993Jan16.163714.17827@mtu.edu> <13947@optilink.COM> <root.727741517@spssig>
- Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 16:32:07 GMT
- Lines: 34
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- In article <root.727741517@spssig> adams@spss.com (Steve Adams) writes:
- >cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer) writes:
- >
- >>In article <1993Jan16.163714.17827@mtu.edu>, pecampbe@mtu.edu (Paul Campbell) writes:
- >>> In article <90302@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM> mwilson@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Mark Wilson) writes:
- >
- >>> It is NOT government's place to go around defining moral and ethical
- >>> issues.
- >>
- >>But it is certainly one of the functions of government to define
- >>what immoral and unethical actions will be prohibited.
- >
- >No. It is up to the PEOPLE to define what things we will allow the
- >government to do. We define those things that we wish enforced.
-
- Agreed. But when the government accurately reflects the opinions of the
- PEOPLE, then it's just arbitrary semantics whether we say "the people
- prohibit..." or "the government prohibits...".
-
- >>We prohibit murder. We prohibit kidnapping. We prohibit fraud. Every
- >>one of these is defining a punishment for an action that most people
- >>consider to be immoral and unethical.
- >
- >Each of these is a violation of a persons rights. You are punishing for
- >a violation of the right to life, liberty, etc, etc.
-
- And those rights to life, liberty, etc., etc., have been established
- because people considered it MORAL to establish those rights.
-
- Law is a subset of morality, in that morality is the sum total of all
- attitudes about how people ought to behave, and law is an attitude about
- how _certain_ behaviors ought to be dealt with.
-
- - Kevin
-