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- From: sethr@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (seth.r.rosenthal)
- Subject: Re: MEIER
- Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
- Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:42:52 GMT
- Message-ID: <1993Jan21.154252.6697@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>
- References: <9301171308.AA131380@sub.aix.rpi.edu> <1993Jan18.181022.425@compu.com> <1993Jan21.010626.4425@casbs.Stanford.EDU>
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- In article <1993Jan21.010626.4425@casbs.Stanford.EDU>, kathleen@casbs.Stanford.EDU (Kathleen Much) writes:
- > In article <1993Jan18.181022.425@compu.com> fr@compu.com (Fred Rump from home) writes:
- > >
- > >>The Jewish MEYER, on the other hand, derives from
- > >>the Hebrew MEIR which means wise or scholarly.
- > >
- > >It can be presumed then that this is simply the Germanization of Golda's name?
- > >Or did they go the other way and made Meir out of Meyer? I suppose it would be
- > >difficult to change Goldstein back to Hebrew and still sound the same. My
- > >assumption was that the typical Jewish name was either given to them or they
- > >simply chose in the 15th & 16th centuries when the German Jews had to take a
- > >surname and register their existence.
- >
- > As usual, Fred has lots of good info for us. But I believe the forced
- > naming of German Jews took place later--in the 18th and 19th centuries.
- > I'm not sure about Golda, but I think she was a Meyer in the US (she
- > was born in Russia, and I don't know what her Russian name was) and
- > became Meir in Israel.
- >
-
- Actually, although the laws forcing the naming of German Jews
- were promolgated in the 18th century, the oldest German-Jewish
- names come from the 14th century. Rothschild goes back a long
- way as does Epstein and Katzenellenbogen (and its numerous variants).
- Those interested in Jewish names should
- check out Kaganoff's "Dictionary of Jewish Names and Their Meaning".
- One must be careful to distinguish between real German-Jewish
- names and Yiddish names which are more recent, or registration
- names assigned by German naming officials in Eastern Europe (Weiss,
- Schwartz, Goldstein, Rosenthal, etc.).
-
- My recollection is that Golda Meir had a different name
- when she lived in Milwaukee, one could look it up I'm sure.
-
- Seth Rosenthal
-
- Disclaimer: All opinions are my own not my employers'.
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