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- From: alyoung@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu (amy lynn young-leith)
- Newsgroups: soc.men
- Subject: Re: Drunk Sex = Rape ? (was Re: Mysogynist
- Message-ID: <1993Jan23.004145.1296@news.cs.indiana.edu>
- Date: 23 Jan 93 05:41:38 GMT
- References: <1993Jan19.205938.7956@news.cs.indiana.edu> <1jjru2INN3kb@seven-up.East.Sun.COM>
- Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington
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- In article <1jjru2INN3kb@seven-up.East.Sun.COM> eisrael@klingon.East.Sun.COM writes:
- >The problem is that this isn't always a safe bet. I've heard more than one
- >"authority" on rape (including the head of the Women's Rape Counseling Center
- >in D.C., whose name unfortunately escapes me) claim that a woman who realizes
- >in the morning that she probably didn't want to have sex (or wouldn't have if
- >she'd thought about it some more) has been raped. What this amounts to is
- >the ability to retroactively rescind consent.
-
- But please remember that not all women think like one that you pick
- out to use as an example of what a group may think.
-
- >This may mean that a perfectly well-meaning male may wake in the morning to
- >find out that he's a rapist. As males already have the greater burden
- >(culturally and perhaps biologically) for initiating sexual interludes and
- >interpreting their partners' responses, this sort of thing obviously makes
- >them a little uncomfortable.
-
- I can't understand the flak I've gotten in email about my opinions on
- this. I doubt I'd get this much if I posted that I thought all men
- were scum!! I don't think having sex with someone who consents is
- rape just because they are drunk! The way I look at it, these
- charges normally happen because 1)woman gets drunk. 2)Woman ends up
- consenting to sex, WILLINGLY has intercourse. 3)Woman wakes up in the
- morning and feels bad about what she's done, and foots off the
- responsability by trying to call it rape. This is rediculous.
-
- Now on the other hand, I think having sex with someone who is
- unconscious is rape. They CANNOT give consent. Having sex with a
- drunk woman who does not give consent is rape. Where's the problem
- here? *I* did not make the laws which we live under today, and I do
- not like them. Hence I try to change them.
-
- amy
-
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- alyoung@kiwi.indiana.edu Occupation: Lifetime Student
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- *This post was made on personal time and has nothing to do whatsoever with *
- * the attitudes or opinions of Indiana University. *
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