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- From: payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne)
- Subject: Re: Privacy -- and responsibility
- Message-ID: <1993Jan21.214043.23537@netcom.com>
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- References: <1993Jan17.144857.5557@hellgate.utah.edu> <1993Jan19.061956.14947@netcom.com> <1993Jan19.152645.18719@hellgate.utah.edu>
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- Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:40:43 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan19.152645.18719@hellgate.utah.edu> galt%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu writes:
- >In article <1993Jan19.061956.14947@netcom.com>, payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne) writes:
- >>I do not speak for others in this thread. But I would be happy with
- >>the simple admission that the situation is a burden upon -both-
- >>parties. The woman is unlikely to go to jail over the situation,
- >>no matter how badly she handles things, she is not assumed guilty.
- >>The man has no saftey net or room for error if the posts here are
- >>accurate (does anyone claim innacuracy for the posted situations?).
- >>
- >>The mans obligation has been characterized as simply writing a check,
- >>no work at all.
- >
- >Wow, I get to put away my asbestos underwear for a few minutes... :)
- >
- >Yes, I'll agree with the above...
- >
- >>The current situation specifically denies any shred of authority to
- >>the man, not even the simple curtesy of notification that he might be
- >>a father. The woman can bear the child and put it up for adaption
- >>without notifying the father, who may wish to raise the child.
- >
- >While I think it would be a violation of privacy (and a burden) to force
-
- What exactly is the burden? Why is it a volation of privacy to notify
- the -father- that he is indeed a father? There are two adults involved
- at minumum, pregnancy is -not- a personal decision.
-
- >the woman to hunt down all potential fathers when she gets pregnant,
-
- If she cannot identify the father, then there is a different problem.
- I pity the poor bloke who's name gets the decision dart.
-
- >I think the men should be able to ask her and expect the truth. (e.g.
-
- Since she has no legal requirement, she probably either would not answer,
- or lie rather than telling a difficult truth. I dount that this would matter
- in court, or that the state would be concerned when they start garnishing
- wages. If lying is as good as telling a difficult truth, why bother with the
- difficulty?
-
- >"Just thought I would check to see if you are pregnant, because if you
- >aren't, I'm planning on getting married, buying a house and adopting
- >5 kids." to which she would reply "Yes" or "No" or "Yes, but I don't
- >know if it is yours") If she lies and says no, then the man should
- >(and probably already does) have some extra leverage in a paternity
- >suit.
-
- I'd be interested to hear of any cases where the father was lied to and
- lost.
-
- >----
- >Join the Greg Alt boycott! Put /galt/h :j in your killfile today!
- >----
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- Rich
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- payner@netcom.com
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