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- From: MLINDROOS@FINABO.ABO.FI (Marcus Lindroos INF)
- Subject: Re: Mir mission to Mars?
- In-Reply-To: David.Anderman@ofa123.fidonet.org's message of 23 Jan 93 11:00:50
- Message-ID: <1993Jan25.194517.28389@abo.fi>
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- Organization: Abo Akademi University, Finland
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- Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:45:17 GMT
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- In <232310cec@ofa123.fidonet.org> David.Anderman@ofa123.fidonet.org writes:
-
- > The mission you mention is technically feasible, with some risks to the crew
- > that others here will certainly elaborate upon.
-
- ...more info on the subject. I first learned about this from Frank
- Miles'/Nicholas Booth's RACE TO MARS: THE HARPER & ROW MARS FLIGHT ATLAS
- [an excellent book BTW]. "Western experts" -without revealing any names-
- reportedly feel that a Mir/Proton combination launched by the Energia
- would be capable of doing the job. The original plans called for an additional
- first stage rocket, launched by a second Energia, fuelled with liquid
- oxygen/hydrogen. This would have launched the Mir/Proton combination into a
- highly elliptical parking orbit. Only a brief 1km/s burn by the Proton stage
- would be necessary to put the spacecraft on course for Mars. Techically, the
- fuel left would be sufficient to insert the Mir/Proton craft into Mars orbit
- and return to Earth one year after arrival. This would be a long, difficult
- and expensive mission.
- ---
- A flyby mission would require a total delta-V of the same magnitude as the
- mission outlined above, or about 5km/s for the Proton stage. _On paper_, there
- are no serious problems. The Energia is relatively untested, but the cosmonauts
- will be sent up by a Soyuz and not by the Mir/Proton/Energia combination so
- there are no dangers to the crew. The Proton second stage is 25 years
- old, a "tried and trusted" man-rated rocket. It uses hydrazine and nitrogen
- tetroxide for fuel, both are easy to store during a year-long space mission.
- Does anyone know the weight of the Proton 2nd stage? My guess is that it
- weights about 180-190 tons when fully fuelled, and there should be about 30-40
- tons left for the spacecraft. The Mir station has a mass of 20 tons while the
- Soyuz rez-entry capsule adds another 3 tons to the total. The muission would
- last 12-15 months and a crew of two would require about 4-5 tons of food, water
- and oxygen. Approx. half of this could be stored inside a Progress vessel
- that would remain docked to the Mir during the outward leg of the journey to
- Mars. An empty Progress craft weights about 5 tons and the total mass
- (excluding the Proton stage w. fuel) would be 33 tons.
-
- > The major obstacle is money. The Russians don't have it, and the US is not
- > going to fund Russians exploration of Mars.
- >
- > However, if the Finn government were to provide sufficient funding, I'm sure a
- > human flight to Mars could be arranged.
- >
- The superpowers should finance it, it probably would cost about as much as an
- Apollo lunar mission. It would provide a boost to space programs not only in
- Russia but also in the west. Mars has always had a special hold on the
- imagination, and I am sure there would be a lot of interest for the mission.
- Particularly in Russia. The Soviets were very proud of their achievements in
- space, seeing their excellent space program grounded due to lack of financial
- support from the West hurts their pride almost as much as the fall of the
- Soviet empire. The extremist hardliners there will not find it difficult to
- convince the average Russian that the westerners are to blame for this
- "Dolchstuss in Space."
-
- > --- Maximus 2.01wb
-
- MARCU$
-