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- From: tjt@Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Tim Thompson)
- Newsgroups: sci.skeptic
- Subject: Re: Global warming, ozone depletion NOT!
- Date: 28 Jan 1993 01:08:46 GMT
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- Global warming is hard to pin down because the effect is small, and easily
- masked by, or confused with, natural cycles. Since these natural cycles are
- poorly defined, and not well understood, there is plenty of room for argument.
- However, the argument is over the details of how a complicated climatic system
- works, not the fundamental physics. CO2 is a great absorber of IR, and if you
- pump enough CO2 into an atmosphere, it will warm up. How much is enough? How
- effective is the warming? Open questions.
- This also depends on where the CO2 is. Pumping CO2 into the stratosphere might
- actually cause global cooling, because at that altitude the effect of the line
- emission from the CO2 is more important than it's IR absorption. If you want to
- warm, you need to dump it into the troposphere (which we do).
-
- The Ozone hole is another matter. Despite Rush Limbaugh's insistance, it's easy
- to demonstrate that there is an ozone hole, how deep it is, and that man made
- chloroflourocarbons (CFC's) are to blame. First, direct measurements published in
- JGR and Science, and other places, show that as much as 90% of the ozone over the
- south pole is depleted during the hole season. I call that a hole. Second, the
- chemical kinetics, requiring Polar Stratospheric Clouds (PSC's), and UV flux to
- break up the CFC'c are easily determined and modeled. Finally, note that there is no
- appreciable natural source of Flourine in the Earth's atmosphere. All of the
- measureable Flourine comes from CFC's. Just compare the Flourine abundance levels,
- and their rate of change with those for Chlorine. If there is a lot of natural
- (i.e. volcanic) Chlorine, then the Chlorine curves must be steeper than the Flourine
- curves, and they are not. Therefore, one can confidently say that anthropogenic
- (I love big words) Chlorine is to blame for observed ozone depletion.
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- Timothy J. Thompson, Earth and Space Sciences Division, JPL.
- Assistant Administrator, Division Science Computing Network.
- Secretary, Los Angeles Astronomical Society.
- Member, BOD, Mount Wilson Observatory Association.
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