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- From: firth@sei.cmu.edu (Robert Firth)
- Subject: Re: New Physics, Healing, Paranormal
- Message-ID: <1993Jan28.083500.28224@sei.cmu.edu>
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- Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 08:35:00 EST
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- In article <-xq3+jr@rpi.edu> petitc@nuge112.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit) writes:
-
- > As for all the ESP info---consider this. There are many urban legends which
- >involve ESP as 'saving the day' Now, in order for ESP not to exist, EVERY ONE
- >of those stories must have either an alternate explaination or be totally false
-
- Quite true. In thinking about this, I find it helpful to narrow the subject
- matter somewhat. Specifically, to dreams. And, indeed, to a small subset
- of dreams - dreams by a person about to travel that the train will crash,
- the boat will sink, or whatever.
-
- I've had such dreams, and you probably have too. So, let's suppose Serena
- Savak is about to fly to Hawaii, has a dream of a plane crash, cancels her
- ticket, and the plane crashes. And, of course, the Weekly World News
- publishes the whole story. ESP, right?
-
- Not necessarily. What we don't know is, how many times Ms Savak has had the
- same dream, but the plane has *not* crashed. And we need that information,
- in order to prove even a statistical correlation between dreams and crashes.
- After all, if one flight in 1000 crashes, and only one dream in 1000 comes
- true, that's exactly what you'd expect if the dreams were the result of
- random anxiety rather than precognition. But, of course, the WWN doesn't
- run 999 stories on dreams that didn't come true.
-
- There is an alternative approach. Travellers cancel their trips quite
- frequently, but psychic travellers, presumably, are more likely to cancel
- trips on vehicles that are about to crash. So, is there a detectable
- difference in the pattern of cancellations for planes that have crashed?
-
- This has been studies at least three times, and (typically, I'm afraid)
- I've long ago forgotten where the stuff is written up. So, if you have
- time to hunt, two of them are
-
- (a) a series of interviews with people who did not sail on the Titanic
-
- (b) a study of cancellations on the de Havilland Comet 1, conducted by
- British Overseas Airways Corporation. That's the plane that caught
- "metal fatugue", by the way, and there were for a while all kinds of
- wild theories about what was going on.
-
- As best I can recall, no pattern emerged. But it still gives me the
- creeps to read "Futility".
-
-