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- From: snyder@henry.ece.cmu.edu (John Snyder)
- Subject: Re: magnet help
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- Organization: Physics Department, Carnegie Mellon University
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- Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 01:16:01 GMT
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- In article <23JAN199316393172@csa2.lbl.gov> sichase@csa2.lbl.gov (SCOTT I CHASE) writes:
- >In article <21679@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu>, lim@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (Lloyd Lim) writes...
- >>I'm building something and have some magnetism related questions. Sorry
- >>if this is the wrong place, but I couldn't think of anything better.
- >
- >This is *exactly* the right place.
- >>
- >>Are some metals better at attracting magnets than others?
-
- I believe that what you want is something that is easily magnetized
- (has a high permeability). In that case, there are several choices,
- depending on how large these sheets have to be, and how much $$$
- you want to spend. The cheapest solutions are to use soft iron
- sheets, or the sheets from which transformer cores are laminated
- (silicon steel, I believe). Perhaps you could even cannabalize
- a transformer of some kind (but watch out for any that would have
- toxic chemicals in them -- one that has the core open to the air
- would be safe, I think). If you want to spend some money, you could
- use mu-metal (which must be annealed and carefully handled), or
- melt-spun amorphous materials (which are probably the transformer-core
- materials of the future, at least for some applications). You might
- be able to buy these from Allied Chemical. They would be in the form
- of long thin ribbons.
-
- >>What kinds of magnets are stronger than others? Where would I get them?
-
- If you want cheap ones, I would try Alnico or ferrite. I believe
- that SmCo5 (might just be called SmCo or samarium-cobalt commercially)
- has a higher energy product, and that they are also commercially available.
- I had a little piece of SmCo around the lab to play with, and they are
- really amazingly strong. However, they are also brittle, so if you drop
- it or let it smack into something, it can break. There are even higher
- energy-product magnets in research, but I don't know if they are commercially
- available yet. These would be Sm2Co17 or NdFeB (neodymium-iron-boron,
- I don't remember the formulation). The latter can either be made by
- powder metallurgy (like SmCo), or melt-spun and laminated. I believe
- NdFeB and its variants are the current highest-energy-product magnets.
- There was much excitement at the Conference on Magnetism and Magnetic
- Materials in Pittsburgh in 1983 when they were first announced.
-
- >
- >YES! Some metals, like aluminum, would not work at all. You don't sound
- >like you want the associated physics lesson, so I won't give it to you.
- >Suffice it to say that you undoubtedly want to use iron sheets for
- >your project if you put a premium on (inexpensive) attraction to magnets.
- >You can get better if you have the bucks, but it's not likely to be worth it.
- >
- >-Scott
-
- John
- snyder@henry.ece.cmu.edu
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